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Post by allinontrolls on Jul 10, 2017 18:39:17 GMT
Long riders are no northkin models they do not profit from the new elder or free upkeep. Currently we got fire eaters champs with skaldi as our northkin options. I hope they add northkin for our buffalos too.
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Post by allinontrolls on Jul 10, 2017 18:25:21 GMT
Its still not rok but janissa for doomy2 in theme
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Post by allinontrolls on Jul 9, 2017 11:21:33 GMT
Which lists are you bringing to the tournaments?
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Post by allinontrolls on Jul 7, 2017 14:40:50 GMT
Brilliant article, thanks so much for posting. I've played doomie3 for the last few months, and come to a lot of the same conclusions, and I'd definitely agree that he's the most powerful caster in the faction. I'm surprised by the lack of runebearer- being able to throw out a repudiate or stranglehold while keeping doomie safe is invaluable. I take a dhunia knot too (literally the only list I use them in), which makes it fairly reliable. Also, I've found that I prefer him without a mountain king. I mean, the MK is one of the strongest pieces in faction, so putting him with doomie3 is really great. On the other hand, I think doomie gets most power out of having multiple beasts- with Scroll of the call of troqal, 2 maulers does a whole lot more damage than a MK. Also, I usually lead with a mauler with admonition, and mulg with a puppet strings to fish for crits on the retaliatory strike, which is a lot harder to pin down than the MK. Plus, all of your heavies can be immune to pushes, places and KD, so it feels a bit like you're paying twice for it on the MK. Oh, and marauders can really ruin MK's day. Overall though, he's incredible, and I'd say our warlock for running PoD. If you're playing Ragnor PoD, you really have to try this- you won't go back! I think I'm going to swap the Runebearer in for the whelps top help in the Haley2 matchup.
I often find I want to: - repudiate the stormwall 2 fury - Strangehold the sw with boosted damage 3 fury - Cast Implacability 2 fury - Cast Lightning fists 1 fury - Put 1 on stone 1 fury or upkeep admonition
With the runebearer that suddenly becomes possible.
Are you going to the tournament at the Wirrall in a couple of weeks? If so we can talk more there.
Why do you want to stranglehold a stonewall if your caster ends it's movement in 10 of a stonewall and the sw don't die I can't see your caster survive the next turn.
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Post by allinontrolls on Jul 4, 2017 21:01:31 GMT
I played a similar list in two tournaments with some success. Instead of a mountain king I had 2 maulers cause I do not like playing a mk in both of my lists. But I see alot of reasons for a me in doomy3.
Do you think doomy3 is playable in all cygnar matchups?
Why do you play whelps instead of a runebearer?
What matchups do you think doomy3 struggles with other then the obvious gf matchup?
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Post by allinontrolls on Jul 1, 2017 20:58:47 GMT
Yes we have alot of good casters but we struggle playing infantry. In my games a lot of the time 5 box infantry dies like single wound infantry. Our cavalry is one of the worst in game.
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Post by allinontrolls on Jul 1, 2017 5:38:08 GMT
First we should discuss of which type of game we are talking about. If we talk about bringing a troll list to a local game Store to play some games. I think no one will argue that trolls are able to win. Playing in a 2 list tournament where people play their anti armor list or a list Built to beat trolls is a complete different story. On a high competitive level trolls are struggling. Building 2 lists that are able to deal with ghost fleet, heavy metal, skorne, khador, f2 oracles is not easy.
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Post by allinontrolls on Jun 30, 2017 15:41:19 GMT
A common theme my opponents say after games we've played... "Man, I thought Trolls was a bottom faction." I have literally heard that 5-6 times. I've gotten people to say that Doom2 is "broken", Grim1 is "oppressively good", Ragnor is "Bullshit". There's even some people who flat refuse to play my Callandra. If you're struggling with Trolls, it's not the faction. The player is always way more important than the faction for sure but trolls are not in a good spot. We got 1 good playstyle and that's armor with either shooting or melee. So we are really easy to tech against. We did not win a big tournament in a while and you have to go way back on discount games to find a troll Being in the Top3. Alot of podcasts rank trolls on the bottom of all factions. I still believe the next cid will bring us back.
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Post by allinontrolls on Jun 29, 2017 20:27:07 GMT
Like trollock said fury 5 is a pain for a beast caster. It's not only the low fury but also the 10" bubble for your beasts to stay in control of m2.
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Post by allinontrolls on Jun 21, 2017 19:59:25 GMT
I am looking forward to steamroller 17. I think our lists have to change. The tournaments I played so far were really hard not to loose on scenario playing in PoD. Currently I like gunny,pborka and doomy3.
Madrak2 and madrak3 does not click for me. Madrak2 fails to deliver his troops while madrak3 fails to deal enough damage. Missing pyre trolls animus for troops.
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Post by allinontrolls on Jun 16, 2017 19:32:07 GMT
If they change the pyre troll animus back to model I would play my infantry again
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Jun 16, 2017 19:29:41 GMT
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Post by allinontrolls on Jun 16, 2017 19:29:41 GMT
I am not a big fan of a min unit of champs. Normally u play them with a caster like pborka or similar casters and using ur upkeep spells for 3 man feels often a bit sad. Warders are different cause I often use them to deliver my other stuff like beasts or champs. They are very self-sufficient for that case and generally don't need an upkeep
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Post by allinontrolls on Jun 16, 2017 19:23:28 GMT
I played them with ragnor when themes started. I dropped them very soon. In the current meta I see no reason playing them. They can not deal with infantry nor do anything Vz jacks. I hope they get a rework in our northkin cid.
In general I listened to alot of podcast discussing about playing in and out of theme. Going down to 5 points to win on scenario I think adding feralgeists and other stuff should really be considered to leave themenforce.
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Post by allinontrolls on Jun 13, 2017 20:00:09 GMT
I play alot of gunny some general ideas.
Currently their are 2 themes gunny is really interested in playing.
The one is focused on jacks(POD) or on shooting infantry(currently still in CID).
I would choose one and start building your list. In general a mountain king is a really solid choice with gunny. Cause fully boosted power 16 sprays are amazing.
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Post by allinontrolls on Jun 12, 2017 17:42:04 GMT
I don't know if playing in theme and adr are a good combo. If you play calandra outside of theme u are able to switch in and out a highwaymen boat to befuddle stuff.
I do not know if I like the mk with calandra. Perhaps u can explain your idea behind this.
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