Grimolf
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Post by Grimolf on Oct 22, 2017 16:59:39 GMT
Black Fleet CID is up next. I imagine it’s going to be busy, with all of the new models that wil need to be tested. I’m wondering, however, what other models related to the fleets might get drawn into the CID? I’m guessing we’ll see Deneghra1 get a gentle adjustment (ahem!), although that might just happen without going through CID, to avoid salty conflict. Who else? Here’s my current list for who might get the “Kraye” treatment in the Black Fleets CID:
Terminus - Lich Lord in charge of the Cryx fleets. I’m not sure he needs much attention. Skarre 1&2: Some might be salty about Skarre1, but she’s not really out of the range of strong casters. Skarre2 is not top tier, but she is pretty solid.
My hopefuls:
Aiakos2 - He has such potential to be a Scaverous like caster, but not enough FOCUS to make it happen. Maybe +1 FOCUS? That would make him soooo interesting, and I’d at least like to playtest him there to see whether it would be overpowered. Or, maybe get back Stealth to protect him when he’s far upfield to support his force (which he usually is) and sitting on little/no FOCUS since blew his stack casting those cool spells. Kharybdis - Fix that stupid spray/tentacles interaction (that seems to have been a mistack during development anyway). I’d also like to see him be able to use his cloud as a free action rather than a *Action so that he can run and pop his cloud. Otherwise, maybe reduce points cost by 1-2.
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Post by Cryptix on Oct 22, 2017 21:00:33 GMT
Black Fleet CID is up next. I imagine it’s going to be busy, with all of the new models that wil need to be tested. I’m wondering, however, what other models related to the fleets might get drawn into the CID? I’m guessing we’ll see Deneghra1 get a gentle adjustment (ahem!), although that might just happen without going through CID, to avoid salty conflict. Who else? Here’s my current list for who might get the “Kraye” treatment in the Black Fleets CID: Terminus - Lich Lord in charge of the Cryx fleets. I’m not sure he needs much attention. Skarre 1&2: Some might be salty about Skarre1, but she’s not really out of the range of strong casters. Skarre2 is not top tier, but she is pretty solid. My hopefuls: Aiakos2 - He has such potential to be a Scaverous like caster, but not enough FOCUS to make it happen. Maybe +1 FOCUS? That would make him soooo interesting, and I’d at least like to playtest him there to see whether it would be overpowered. Or, maybe get back Stealth to protect him when he’s far upfield to support his force (which he usually is) and sitting on little/no FOCUS since blew his stack casting those cool spells. Kharybdis - Fix that stupid spray/tentacles interaction (that seems to have been a mistack during development anyway). I’d also like to see him be able to use his cloud as a free action rather than a *Action so that he can run and pop his cloud. Otherwise, maybe reduce points cost by 1-2. You will most likely never be able to run and cloud (not even Kodiaks can) but you would be able to charge and corrode a group of Infantry for example.
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Post by grotsnik on Oct 22, 2017 23:10:48 GMT
Well it would be a good time to ask for denny2 to get a feat. Also helldivers and non-desecrator crabjacks getting some tweaks would be nice... but I dont hold my breath on that At least probably bloodgorgers and black ogrun boarding party will get the adjustments they need.
And regarding aiakos2 getting foc7, wait for the misery cage to go out, there you will have your extra foc
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Deller
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Post by Deller on Oct 23, 2017 7:13:41 GMT
Well it would be a good time to ask for denny2 to get a feat. Also helldivers and non-desecrator crabjacks getting some tweaks would be nice... but I dont hold my breath on that At least probably bloodgorgers and black ogrun boarding party will get the adjustments they need. And regarding aiakos2 getting foc7, wait for the misery cage to go out, there you will have your extra foc Helldivers and Deneghra2 have nothing to do with the Black Fleet. As much as they need CID work, I don't want them cluttering up testing of the black fleet. The only things that should be a part of this CID cycle are Cryx's living units, their support solos, Amphibious warjacks, Aiakos2, and all 3 Skarres. Nothing else in Cryx is related in any way to the Black Fleet, and nothing else should be included in this cycle.
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Post by Gamingdevil on Oct 23, 2017 7:59:09 GMT
I've been playing a bit of Skarre 2 Slaughterfleet during the buildup, to make sure I know what I'm talking about and neither Black Ogrun nor Bloodgorgers actually get any work done. I'm hoping they will at least get some touchups (my favourite would be Battle Driven on Gorgers and drag large bases in a 3+ CRA for Ogrun) and they probably will. Gerlak is actually mostly fine except that he is way too expensive. Aside from that, as mentioned, I'm hoping for Kharybdis (give Gunfighter and reduce points by 1-2, preferably 2), I'm also hoping Kharybdis will just flat out be allowed in Slaughterfleet, it's Aiakos's theme thematically and Aiakos 1 can't even take his personal jack. Possibly Aiakos 2, but I don't think he will get another pass. I wouldn't mind the Harrower and Leviathan getting a slight tweak, but they're mostly fine I guess.
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Deller
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Post by Deller on Oct 23, 2017 8:19:45 GMT
I've been playing a bit of Skarre 2 Slaughterfleet during the buildup, to make sure I know what I'm talking about and neither Black Ogrun nor Bloodgorgers actually get any work done. I'm hoping they will at least get some touchups (my favourite would be Battle Driven on Gorgers and drag large bases in a 3+ CRA for Ogrun) and they probably will. Gerlak is actually mostly fine except that he is way too expensive. Aside from that, as mentioned, I'm hoping for Kharybdis (give Gunfighter and reduce points by 1-2, preferably 2), I'm also hoping Kharybdis will just flat out be allowed in Slaughterfleet, it's Aiakos's theme thematically and Aiakos 1 can't even take his personal jack. Possibly Aiakos 2, but I don't think he will get another pass. I wouldn't mind the Harrower and Leviathan getting a slight tweak, but they're mostly fine I guess. Bloodgorgers can get work done with an armor debuff, I've been playing them with decent results with Agathia. I agree Black Orgun are horrible at the moment.
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Post by Gamingdevil on Oct 23, 2017 8:49:53 GMT
I've been playing a bit of Skarre 2 Slaughterfleet during the buildup, to make sure I know what I'm talking about and neither Black Ogrun nor Bloodgorgers actually get any work done. I'm hoping they will at least get some touchups (my favourite would be Battle Driven on Gorgers and drag large bases in a 3+ CRA for Ogrun) and they probably will. Gerlak is actually mostly fine except that he is way too expensive. Aside from that, as mentioned, I'm hoping for Kharybdis (give Gunfighter and reduce points by 1-2, preferably 2), I'm also hoping Kharybdis will just flat out be allowed in Slaughterfleet, it's Aiakos's theme thematically and Aiakos 1 can't even take his personal jack. Possibly Aiakos 2, but I don't think he will get another pass. I wouldn't mind the Harrower and Leviathan getting a slight tweak, but they're mostly fine I guess. Bloodgorgers can get work done with an armor debuff, I've been playing them with decent results with Agathia. I agree Black Orgun are horrible at the moment. Problem is that with MAT 6, POW 11, they kind of want both a DEF and an ARM debuff, so I would like it if they could either hit or damage reasonably by themselves, so I only have to fix one of the issues with further support. Battle Driven would also mesh well with getting Vengeance from the new CA.
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Post by grotsnik on Oct 23, 2017 17:25:37 GMT
I've been playing a bit of Skarre 2 Slaughterfleet during the buildup, to make sure I know what I'm talking about and neither Black Ogrun nor Bloodgorgers actually get any work done. I'm hoping they will at least get some touchups (my favourite would be Battle Driven on Gorgers and drag large bases in a 3+ CRA for Ogrun) and they probably will. Gerlak is actually mostly fine except that he is way too expensive. Aside from that, as mentioned, I'm hoping for Kharybdis (give Gunfighter and reduce points by 1-2, preferably 2), I'm also hoping Kharybdis will just flat out be allowed in Slaughterfleet, it's Aiakos's theme thematically and Aiakos 1 can't even take his personal jack. Possibly Aiakos 2, but I don't think he will get another pass. I wouldn't mind the Harrower and Leviathan getting a slight tweak, but they're mostly fine I guess. Maybe gerlak stays at 7 and picks up veteran leader
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Post by Gamingdevil on Oct 24, 2017 6:05:58 GMT
I've been playing a bit of Skarre 2 Slaughterfleet during the buildup, to make sure I know what I'm talking about and neither Black Ogrun nor Bloodgorgers actually get any work done. I'm hoping they will at least get some touchups (my favourite would be Battle Driven on Gorgers and drag large bases in a 3+ CRA for Ogrun) and they probably will. Gerlak is actually mostly fine except that he is way too expensive. Aside from that, as mentioned, I'm hoping for Kharybdis (give Gunfighter and reduce points by 1-2, preferably 2), I'm also hoping Kharybdis will just flat out be allowed in Slaughterfleet, it's Aiakos's theme thematically and Aiakos 1 can't even take his personal jack. Possibly Aiakos 2, but I don't think he will get another pass. I wouldn't mind the Harrower and Leviathan getting a slight tweak, but they're mostly fine I guess. Maybe gerlak stays at 7 and picks up veteran leader I don't think that's much of an option, he already does something substantial for the unit and you don't want everything put into one (expensive) solo. Also, I think MAT is a good "weakness" for them, they have 2 attacks anyway.
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Post by darrwood on Oct 25, 2017 15:22:50 GMT
I would love for Satyxis Blood Witches to be able to gain the benefit of the clouds they make. Currently if they make a cloud the will always be "toeing" it. IE they are never behind it, or in it, so they never get any bonus.
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Post by grotsnik on Oct 25, 2017 16:12:46 GMT
I would love for Satyxis Blood Witches to be able to gain the benefit of the clouds they make. Currently if they make a cloud the will always be "toeing" it. IE they are never behind it, or in it, so they never get any bonus. Maybe overtake? That way they could go into or out of the cloud
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Post by tiberius on Oct 25, 2017 16:28:54 GMT
Or reposition. The raiders can already get overtake...once a month ...so reposition would be something different and allow them to benefit from their own clouds.
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Post by darkshroud on Oct 27, 2017 19:27:10 GMT
I've been playing a bit of Skarre 2 Slaughterfleet during the buildup, to make sure I know what I'm talking about and neither Black Ogrun nor Bloodgorgers actually get any work done. I'm hoping they will at least get some touchups (my favourite would be Battle Driven on Gorgers and drag large bases in a 3+ CRA for Ogrun) and they probably will. Gerlak is actually mostly fine except that he is way too expensive. Aside from that, as mentioned, I'm hoping for Kharybdis (give Gunfighter and reduce points by 1-2, preferably 2), I'm also hoping Kharybdis will just flat out be allowed in Slaughterfleet, it's Aiakos's theme thematically and Aiakos 1 can't even take his personal jack. Possibly Aiakos 2, but I don't think he will get another pass. I wouldn't mind the Harrower and Leviathan getting a slight tweak, but they're mostly fine I guess. Maybe gerlak stays at 7 and picks up veteran leader I really really hate that theyre getting boring. they tried vet leader on surgeon and thank god that didnt stick. please stop with the vet leader
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Post by darkshroud on Nov 1, 2017 16:08:57 GMT
Today at 10am *PST* is going to be a live twitch thing.
per hungerfords twitter
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Post by tiberius on Nov 1, 2017 16:23:07 GMT
I guess I missed that by 2 hours, lol. If there is a youtube link or something, could you post the link?
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