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Post by smoothcriminal on Jun 2, 2017 9:36:06 GMT
I've recently tried to make B2 work out of interest and the best performing list was Fang theme.
The trick is that B2 can have a turn of greatness surpassing even B3 and it might outright win you the game and it's harder to play around (B2 being random works both ways, surprisingly) but you have to sit tight and Fury/Boundless/Berserk your stuff until either you roll 5+ or opponent feeds him 3 models. Fang theme with Fury plays itself, B2 can be a glorified objective holder most of the time while waiting for that great turn. WG theme also plays itself and you can have focus from Malakov, but the problem is that it can't capitalize on feat turn as much because giving rage tokens to wg is not a good thing. New Carriage might change stuff here. Jaws theme was just awful, even with 2x Seers you have a list that's wildly inconsistent in focus and threat ranges.
I'm optimistic for mow theme because it will have both focus from Seers and solid melee models that can capitalize on rage tokens. Meanwhile I'll try out of theme since there it's possible to have everything you want and lack of bonuses might just actually not matter if you get to consistently pull off that big B2 turn.
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Post by wendan on Jun 2, 2017 11:53:35 GMT
I don't know if he lends himself well to any current theme, really. He seems to like a mishmash of units and solos that doesn't fit into any current theme. Maybe the Greylord/Doom Reaver theme if one ends up existing.
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Post by welshhoppo on Jun 2, 2017 15:13:32 GMT
I don't know if he lends himself well to any current theme, really. He seems to like a mishmash of units and solos that doesn't fit into any current theme. Maybe the Greylord/Doom Reaver theme if one ends up existing. You will run him in Jaws and you will like it! I can't see how he helps LoS, he doesn't do anything to help Iron Fangs survive to combat, which I always found was there issue. And they just get in the way of B2 maniac charges.
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Post by wendan on Jun 2, 2017 15:34:24 GMT
He doesn't need it! He needs Drakhuns, and speedy things! He likes Fenris, and Uhlans, and help with focus from the Forge Seers!
There's no theme for those yet!
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Post by welshhoppo on Jun 2, 2017 15:59:32 GMT
He doesn't need it! He needs Drakhuns, and speedy things! He likes Fenris, and Uhlans, and help with focus from the Forge Seers! There's no theme for those yet! Nay! He needs Juggernauts and juggernauts and Kodiaks with 8 attacks each! And Grolars farting out double digits worth of attacks!
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Post by wendan on Jun 2, 2017 16:33:09 GMT
I mean... he needs all those things!
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Post by welshhoppo on Jun 7, 2017 23:24:05 GMT
So I played into Wormy with this list.
War Room Army
Khador - B2 JoW
Theme: Jaws of the Wolf 3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Fuel Cache - Steamroller Objective
Kommander Orsus Zoktavir - WJ: +28 - Ruin - PC: 17 (Battlegroup Points Used: 17) - Juggernaut - PC: 12 (Battlegroup Points Used: 11) - Juggernaut - PC: 12 - Juggernaut - PC: 12 - Kodiak - PC: 13
Greylord Forge Seer - PC: 0 - Destroyer - PC: 14 Greylord Forge Seer - PC: 0 - Destroyer - PC: 14 Widowmaker Marksman - PC: 0 Yuri the Axe - PC: 6
Battle Mechaniks - Leader & 3 Grunts: 3
THEME: Jaws of the Wolf ---
GENERATED : 06/07/2017 23:07:49
And I won 5-3 on scenario, it was the 2016 Recon one because my opponent is going to the etc and they are using 2016 rules. Butcher was able to kill a feral warpwolf on the top of turn 3 which allowed me to send Ruin into the objective. And that put me 3-1 up because Wurmwood was camping by the flag. Due too a house blocking the side of the board, he couldn't get enough into the zone to prevent me from scoring again on my turn and Ruin ended up going into a Woldwyrd and two wolves of ourobos with 3 focus and 3 rage tokens.
Now, I was looking at this list and thinking, is there anything B2 does that B1 or B3 can't do better? Also, I might shuffle some of the jacks around and replace Yuri with Kayazy, but Yuri is fun!
What do you guys think?
Also, should we restart our KGBs? No one seems to be doing battle reports anymore.
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Post by tapecrawler on Jun 8, 2017 3:34:11 GMT
I'd love to see the KGB's resurrected! It's a BIG help for those of us that don't get to game very often.
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