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Post by tesoe on Jun 16, 2017 17:03:14 GMT
For another example of why it's unlikely an existing race will get it's own faction, look what they just did to Nyss. After years of fluff moving them farther away from Ios, they rolled them into the Retribution. There's no way we're getting a Nyss faction now, but we will probably get a theme force for Ret that is pretty close. To be honest, I'm kind of hoping they do this, but make it more Cephalyx-like in that yes, they are part of Retribution, but in the command book, they talk about how the Nyss aren't really integrating, preferring the wild places within Ios. If they decided to expand upon that and basically make enough stuff (like Cephalyx or even Grymkin) to where you could run an entire army of non-blighted Nyss models, there are places you could go that Ret doesn't cover. It would be a very easy sell to a lot of Ret players, and you could do a ton of interesting things with it. Exactly. Which is probably what their plan is. Goreshade isn't a Nyss, but having Nyssor's sword is the next best thing. So that's probably why they had him join the Return. Give a good caster to use in a Nyss themed army.
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Post by lyrael on Jun 16, 2017 17:37:11 GMT
Well, I think we can agree on a couple things: - Privateer Press's PR/marketing team really dropped the ball on this one. Don't announce this shit until you have concrete examples so that people don't freak out. The fact that they said 'we're releasing a new faction every year' and then not a whole lot more than that is downright clinically stupid. - This shouldn't be an excuse to not fix models that need looking at. I would have waited until after the first round of CID changes dropped to talk about this, just because concrete assurances that older models that need fixing will be looked at are important, given what's going on with the CID trenchers right now (why buy Long Gunners when Trencher Long Gunners seem to be just better?) - Stop trying to pull back announcements to Lock and Load. If you're going to mention this stuff now, do the full announcement. Adepticon and other conventions (that PP doesn't control) are just bigger and more centrally located than your shit in Seattle. GW relocated to Nashville for this reason. If you're not going to do that, and you insist on announcing this stuff now, just do the full announcement so people don't freak out.
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Post by tesoe on Jun 16, 2017 18:02:43 GMT
Yeah, based on the last few years their PR department seems to either not exist, or doesn't know how to handle big announcements.
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Post by JJDM on Jun 16, 2017 18:23:46 GMT
I feel like they must have thought that off the cuff announcing there would be a new faction every year would make people excited not send people into a confusing rage spiral.
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Jun 16, 2017 18:26:40 GMT
PP: "Hey, guys. Guess what. We'll be releasing a whole new faction each year! Isn't that exciting?" Players: *Incoherant screeching*
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Post by tesoe on Jun 16, 2017 18:40:01 GMT
With the way it was buried in a boring press release about NQ getting a new name, I think they had a legal need to mention it, and hoped players didn't notice.
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Jun 16, 2017 19:49:26 GMT
With the way it was buried in a boring press release about NQ getting a new name, I think they had a legal need to mention it, and hoped players didn't notice. In what possible context could PP be legally obligated to tell us about future releases?
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Post by tesoe on Jun 16, 2017 21:40:35 GMT
With the way it was buried in a boring press release about NQ getting a new name, I think they had a legal need to mention it, and hoped players didn't notice. In what possible context could PP be legally obligated to tell us about future releases? I'm not a business lawyer, so I couldn't say for sure.
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Jun 16, 2017 21:59:07 GMT
In what possible context could PP be legally obligated to tell us about future releases? I'm not a business lawyer, so I couldn't say for sure. Well... then how can you accuse them of doing this for legal reasons? Anyway, they've announced in the past that they have several "factions" (undefined, but I assume they are talking about complete stand-alones like Grymkin) in the works. PP is just trying to intrigue us with these minor spoilers. We now know they PRESENTLY plan on a new faction release each year. That can change. But for now I recommend optimism. PP has been using the CID in part for new releases, and in part for old. That's great.
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Post by skittles on Jun 16, 2017 22:31:19 GMT
Also, that press release is probably aimed more at the retailer and distributor market than their player base.
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Post by tesoe on Jun 16, 2017 22:54:20 GMT
I'm not a business lawyer, so I couldn't say for sure. Well... then how can you accuse them of doing this for legal reasons? You seem to have the concepts of accusation and speculation confused. Are you a business lawyer familiar with the requirements of a press release regarding a content change in a magazine distributed by a business specializing in games? If not, how can you be certain there wasn't?
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Post by lyrael on Jun 17, 2017 3:08:59 GMT
Honestly, this entire thing just strikes me as MK3 wasn't fully thought out. A lot of these moves seem ultimately good, but stem from a 'why don't we do this instead?' off the cuff question, instead of a plan they're executing in stages.
Ideally, if they were going to say this, they would have just gone full bore on the whole thing, especially given that they were talking about wanting to expand themes in factions and have those become mini-factions (i.e. instead of 'Cygnar', you run 'Trenchers')
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Post by sgregorbmmd on Jun 18, 2017 1:18:35 GMT
PP: "Hey, guys. Guess what. We'll be releasing a whole new faction each year! Isn't that exciting?" Players: *Incoherant screeching* If quotesigs were still possible, this would be mine.
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Post by wishing on Jun 18, 2017 12:35:55 GMT
I feel like they must have thought that off the cuff announcing there would be a new faction every year would make people excited not send people into a confusing rage spiral. They are probably aware that some people would be excited and some people would rage spiral. They just don't know what the percentage distribution of the two are. And neither do we... I think the people who rage spiral are vastly more likely to post about it online than the people who just think it is cool and exciting.
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Post by darkshroud on Jun 18, 2017 23:07:40 GMT
Honestly, this entire thing just strikes me as MK3 wasn't fully thought out. A lot of these moves seem ultimately good, but stem from a 'why don't we do this instead?' off the cuff question, instead of a plan they're executing in stages. Ideally, if they were going to say this, they would have just gone full bore on the whole thing, especially given that they were talking about wanting to expand themes in factions and have those become mini-factions (i.e. instead of 'Cygnar', you run 'Trenchers') maybe they didnt want to remix it again and said, ef it, mk3. but really, i cant imagine this stuff just goes from idea to store in a year. there is art/concepts/rules/modeling of minis/manufacturing/ect. so it cant just be, meeting, THATS A GREAT IDEA!!, new rule book/minis
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