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Post by grimgor on May 18, 2018 13:25:48 GMT
I played Borka PoD at Italian master and finally i think it's better in SoTN. This was too difficult to drop him, and 2 times he gives me a list chicken. I think PoD is our worst theme now, because we don't have enough tools to score on scenario and handle units. Whelps are cool but gremlin swarm/manikins etc are so much better. Many lists with a large battlegroup in other factions have that like orboros/grimkin/CoC etc... Expect kolgrima because of her spray and mulg arcnode, i think she is our best list in PoD Actually
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Post by grimgor on May 16, 2018 21:16:57 GMT
I really want to put him in my pairing, but i was thinking about kolgrimma in SOTN, she does very well into ossrum i think. Do you this borka 2 SoTN is good into cygnar Nemo 3 too ? And Rasheth WoD ? I just tried a match into durst today. The book was very annoying because of the immune stationnary, but i managed to kill him with the raiders. My feat turn was a real pain in the ass for him , Fire eaters burned almost all his support. I finally overkilled durst with bearka.
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Post by grimgor on May 16, 2018 18:25:15 GMT
Borka in SotN will typically hard counter any battle group heavy lists as they generally lose effectively a full turn due to the feat. Bears are also really fantastic armor crackers, so between them, the mauler and bearka I don’t see these match ups concerning at all. Also, in terms of the sprays/Coc/ossrum concerns. It’s not a fantastic match up, but with proper spacing, bearka is advantaged as long as you protect your Earthborn (bulldoze shenanigans). In fact I played ossrum 3 times over the course of grotscon and went 3-0 including the finals for both masters and champs. Having played this version of the list for a while now (mauler/lanny as opposed to the rok version) I don’t think I’d ever change it... there’s just something about telling people your bears threat 16” from the side of the board that makes me laugh. I guess madrak wasn't the good drop against mass sprays ? So i will try the match. But the bradigus match is still bad i think, you can't use hunter's mark because of mystic ward, they have 3-5 watchers that are immune to your feat and they have 14" threat range, you would play bearka into this too ? Against skarre 1 with double BE arm 27 too ? Thanks for your answers guys
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Post by grimgor on May 16, 2018 11:44:30 GMT
The list should struggle with armor cracking and mass sprays, borka doesn't do anything against that, i think about ossrum or CoC with their TEP. Bradigus with their beast arm 20 and 35 life points should be the same problem, what's your mind about this guys ? I don't think skarre 1 with all the stalkers/banes and the BE arm 27 (with darragh) is a good matchup too... And as i see madrak often paired with him; i don't think he is a good answer too into this matchups we are seeing a lot in the meta
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Post by grimgor on Apr 16, 2018 17:53:38 GMT
The turtles might be a problem. Champions even pow 14 would struggle to got them, how do you manage it ?
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Post by grimgor on Apr 12, 2018 5:44:09 GMT
I'm playing actually Madrak BoH and eBorka, but this pairing isn't really good into cryx... especially skarre
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Post by grimgor on Feb 18, 2018 17:21:09 GMT
I agree with this, but overall it's PoD that struggle in this SR. I played several match with PoD and guuny with a MK, it's very difficult to not lose on scenario depiste you can win on attrition
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Post by grimgor on Feb 7, 2018 7:51:30 GMT
Thank you for the write up and i have some questions Why don't you play champions ? It seems they have good synergy with the feat and sanguine bond, it might be a good choice for bearka. Do you think raiders work good enough alone ? On the papers i feel like they need some help with croak riders or the HHH. Do you think also the HHH has a place in bearka list ? Your list seems to be a good answer for a lot of units, don't you think kolgranny is a better choice for your list in this way ? And do you consider his feat for help to hit ? When i build a SoTN bearka list, i consider a BG with 4 heavies to have some countercharge, did you have some good countercharge to make this week ? Tanks again
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Post by grimgor on Jan 13, 2018 12:17:18 GMT
I don't have experience with this but it seems like Mulg, who is pretty common with her would be good against the battle engines. If he could make it to one at least. Mulg is good against the BE, but if you play Mulg you are playing probably PoD and so a brick beast. And against skarre DH i'm not sure it's the best bet to drop PoD against a spam of WM infantery. Maybe borka 2 and his feat can do something... I agree that kolgrimma is maybe the best drop into that, you can have an assassination plan that can work, i'm not sure on the attrition game
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Post by grimgor on Jan 12, 2018 18:48:57 GMT
It's the battle engine (BE) which have arm 23 with skarre's feat, not the banes I agree that cursed fate is a good tool against banes, but it won't be enough to win the match. I have a regular opponent who take 2 BE in his list, it's a real nightmare to deal with lol
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Post by grimgor on Jan 12, 2018 13:33:06 GMT
Do you have an idea what kind of list can counter skarre 1 DH with BE ? In my mind there is nothing, it's just a no match. Dark guidance is doing the work, stalkers counter all of our rules (no tough, no heal, they threat 13" without charging, def 15 arm 18 on skarre's feat is hard, blessed), banes can easily one shot a champion, BE ARM 23 need high magical pow champions aren't enough
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Post by grimgor on Jan 11, 2018 7:45:02 GMT
Do you prefer really kolgranny PoD over kolgranny in SoTN ? I played her in both, and i fel like, it's often SoTN the best choice, you have more units to help for an assassination plan, and she doesn't really need an expensive mulg for arcnode, her threat range are enough in my mind. What match up do you feel good with kolgranny PoD over SoTN ? Do you see a reason to come back madrak 1 in your pairing ? ANd thanks you for the write up, it is very interesting
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Post by grimgor on Jan 8, 2018 8:01:30 GMT
I played Mulg under borka 2, you don't care him as an arcnorde for sure, he is just strong alone, like a mini gargant. Arcane vortex is strong ability, you blocked hunter's mark from orboros for example. However, i don,t have the match for thr crit smite but it's so low that you can't really count on it even with puppet master. The madrak 3 list is good but i don't if it's the same in this meta, maybe...
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Post by grimgor on Jan 5, 2018 19:22:09 GMT
Grymkin top 4? Even if true, definitely not top 4 in popularity. Seems a poor excuse to not play Doomy3, especially in a team tournament environment where you can specifically dodge the Grymkin matchup. It is over in the UK.
At Blood and Oil in November it was the joint most represented faction with 12% of the field. (10 Players in 84)
I can see an argument you don't think they are top four. In my view: Cygnar, Cryx, Skorne and Grymkin are a step above all the rest at the moment. Plenty of evidence to suggest I'm right though these things are always subjective.
Whys especially skorne ? For me they are ok, why for you are they a step above ? I agree for cryx/cygnar/grymkin. In my mind the cage rager are full busted.
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Post by grimgor on Jan 5, 2018 11:18:48 GMT
Agzainst bradigus, i played against a list with 3 guardians 1 warden and 3 watchers in front and 2 sentry&manikins. You can't cast any spells because the - 5 range, and the guardians have shield guard. Bradigus have access to earth's blessing, and you must kill the watchers in front, and the guardians with the stones have 14" threat range with mat 9 pow 23 with synergy. So a long way better than our beasts. The feat is useless, cause the watchers can't move as the sentry, and he placed his stones just behind the guardians, so you can't move them too, and bradigus cast earth's blessing ofc. He doesn't care the clouds because of the feat and the stone placement. I fell like totally powerless lol. Against dreamer 4 cage rager and 2 skins&moans, you can't cast any spells too, to much arcane vortex, so the assasination plan is impossible unless he made big errors. He doesn't care too the cloud, he move very packed and just wait you are coming for an alpha. 21 arm and 32 pv, an EDBT with rage and the +1 stone dont have the 50% chances to got it, and mulg with the same bonus dont have enough damage to take 2 cage rager, and he is key in the matchup because of arcane vortex. If dreamer can cast an enfeeble, it's the end. So you do well for anti spells, but dreamer does it better with this list. But finally, it's look like that in europa the meta is very different than in america, i didn't see a bradigus list that look like the list i face, so maybe kolgrimma PoD is just good in the america meta, but i don't like the idea that trolls being worse than grymkin/bradigus at tanking and answering after taking the alpha
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