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Post by benjamini on Jul 10, 2017 15:06:37 GMT
Disappointing I was hoping they might find some use in a Makeda 1 or Xerxis 1 list or something.
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Post by benjamini on Jul 9, 2017 1:37:58 GMT
Hey Guys,
My FLGS has a couple boxes of discounted Arcuarii and I thinking about picking one of 'em up. They seem like a neat unit, and I like the look of them. I am slightly hesitant because I understand they were a little anemic before the errata. I have never actually given them a shot myself though, so be way off base.
So what do you mighty Tyrants think? How have you found Arcuarii since the errata?
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Post by benjamini on May 18, 2017 16:49:04 GMT
he can kind of replicate the speed part with Energizer... but yeah, the extra mat is always handy in a pinch
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Post by benjamini on May 12, 2017 18:31:38 GMT
Oh I wasn't forgetting about it . I was responding to the idea that the reason we didn't have it or the MOW theme yet was because we were missing some key models. (Though I suspect that applied more to the MOW battle engine than anything else)
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Post by benjamini on May 12, 2017 18:16:59 GMT
Now, admittedly Jaws of the Wolf is the weakest of our theme forces, but WGK is still by far the strongest. Jaws of the Wolf is still a great theme in terms of what some of the other factions get though! If Kossites ever get a UA it'll only go up in Value too! Plus denial of advance deploy can really ruin some lists days. Do we know of other greylord models down the line? I had understood that the forge seer was the last one we'd get for a while.
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Post by benjamini on May 12, 2017 17:59:11 GMT
I'm excited to see what happens! I think I'm going to miss my doomies though
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Post by benjamini on May 12, 2017 14:49:38 GMT
I agree with what some others here have said. I have never been a huge fan of Black Ivan, or destroyers for that matter (Though destroyers have started to win me over lately). That doesn't mean you shouldn't play with them if you want to though, you can still get some work done if you need to!
That being said, you can only work with what you have. What people are getting at is that you might want some knockdown available to you to help the destroyers/decimators hit, (especially as your plan seems to include make use of broadside). Do you have marauders? They could be swapped in for some of your other jacks to give you a slam on a stick in place of other sources of knockdown (wouldn't help you in the same way a field gun would though due to melee range), how about a gun carriage? That would be another option for knocking down targets you want to more easily shoot at.
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Post by benjamini on May 12, 2017 14:39:17 GMT
He used to be one of my most played casters in MK II. I used to run him in steamrollers in a Squee-style jack spam list of devastators and Ruin (Now I mostly use Butcher 3 to get that particular type of thing on the table and have added Kodiaks). I think the main thing that is stopping me from being as interested in him now is the the removal of 360 swinging, and the changes to his feat as a threat extension.
I am sure he is still an alright choice to bring along, and I want come back to him at some point. Maybe when I am done messing around with Malakov and the Old Witch!
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Post by benjamini on May 12, 2017 13:04:25 GMT
You lot have convinced me to give Shockies a try with her once I am done messing around with Malakov lists.
Cap7n: How did you find that list worked into armour?
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Post by benjamini on May 12, 2017 12:54:37 GMT
The two lists Khador I have played into the ghost fleet have been old witch with doom reavers (so it sounds like we're on a similar page there!) and Butcher 3 JOtW. I have also played a few Skorne lists... but my treachery to the motherland isn't what's at issue here!
I certainly felt more confident playing the Witch into the ghost fleet than I did Butcher 3, but I think he still has some potential.
In both games I found myself missing some way of dealing with removing upkeeps (especially painful with the jackspam Butcher), but even then it seemed hard for my opponent to deal with the sorts of armour that I was presenting him with. The list had few infantry models... so there wasn't much for Blackbane to bring back, and I mean... he has to pop out of incorporeal sometime! Most of the list had pretty high MAT too.
Zerkova 2 with spray ponies may also be good!
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Post by benjamini on May 10, 2017 15:16:24 GMT
That was the first thing I thought of when I saw Makeda gave out shield guard! After playing it a few times, I can confirm that it's amusing!
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Post by benjamini on May 9, 2017 19:51:42 GMT
That it would... that it would...
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Post by benjamini on May 9, 2017 19:50:20 GMT
Advance Deploy, sorry!
Though Doom Reavers certainly can act as area denial
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Post by benjamini on May 9, 2017 18:47:25 GMT
I was talking about this with a friend the other day. He's a troll guy, so had his own list of desired characters.
An artifact-ed up character vanguard for Zerkova was definitely top of my list. Though I also love the idea of a character spriggan for Kozlov... I love the Clam chassis too much for it to not have a character jack yet!
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Post by benjamini on May 9, 2017 18:03:05 GMT
Might mess around with shock troopers or black dragons sometime! Those lists look cool!
In contrast, I've been running her quite a bit with Doom Reavers of all things lately. Partially because, I've never really been huge on IFP especially since mk III dropped (though I do want to give them a fair shake at some point now that LOS is out).
I find that having AD weapon masters is usually enough to punish someone leaving a heavy far forward if I am going second once you factor in the possibility of gallows. It's still not an amazing spell, but in this case even if they don't get dragged far enough... you're usually not in too bad a position turn 1 with the blown focus (I swear I roll 1's 80% of the time though). Murder of crows can be used in a pinch to block line of sight to the doomies, as can ternion blizzarded widowmakers. I certainly wouldn't run it into a gun line, but I've been having a lot of success with something like this:
(Old Witch 1) The Old Witch of Khador [+18] - Kodiak [13] - Kodiak [13] - Ruin [17] Kell Bailoch [5] Widowmaker Marksman [4] Doom Reaver Swordsmen [13] Doom Reaver Swordsmen [13] Greylord Ternion [7] Widowmaker Scouts [8]
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