regleant
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Post by regleant on May 24, 2017 3:27:46 GMT
It'll be nice once medium based infantry get a fix, but for now we should be focused on backing up our slow jacks with mobile tactics. All of our wonderfully mobile SPD 5 Exemplar. Though to be fair, I am excited that they have Battle Driven, and try to goad my opponent into killing 1 or 2 when it matters.
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Post by Swampmist on May 24, 2017 3:31:32 GMT
asked hungerford on his twitch stream; The Exemplar CID will not be coming any time this summer. This probably means that June will be Trenchers (confirmed in today's Primecast,) July is probably Northkin (based on them being announced at similar times,) and August will likely either be the Black Islands theme (spoken about in today's primecast as well,) or have something to do with the visions from this month's NQ.
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Post by alanryan on May 24, 2017 3:45:19 GMT
asked hungerford on his twitch stream; The Exemplar CID will not be coming any time this summer. This probably means that June will be Trenchers (confirmed in today's Primecast,) July is probably Northkin (based on them being announced at similar times,) and August will likely either be the Black Islands theme (spoken about in today's primecast as well,) or have something to do with the visions from this month's NQ. great why they didn't just delete PoM faction
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on May 24, 2017 3:49:23 GMT
great why they didn't just delete PoM faction As crappy as that sounds just be patient. Patience is a menothian Virtue....I think. I don't think they don't care. Think about Trolls. They have been feeling very unloved recently. Don't they deserve some fixups as well?
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Post by Scrub_of_Menoth on May 24, 2017 4:00:31 GMT
asked hungerford on his twitch stream; The Exemplar CID will not be coming any time this summer. This probably means that June will be Trenchers (confirmed in today's Primecast,) July is probably Northkin (based on them being announced at similar times,) and August will likely either be the Black Islands theme (spoken about in today's primecast as well,) or have something to do with the visions from this month's NQ. great why they didn't just delete PoM faction Also keep in mind we're 1 of what, 10 factions? We'll get ours eventually.
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Post by alanryan on May 24, 2017 5:41:41 GMT
great why they didn't just delete PoM faction As crappy as that sounds just be patient. Patience is a menothian Virtue....I think. I don't think they don't care. Think about Trolls. They have been feeling very unloved recently. Don't they deserve some fixups as well? yeah, trollblood need fixups very much and we need too but cryx or cygnar, they are top faction now. if they need fix, it's should be fix nerf i hope could see heavy infantry or cavalier cid quickly, if exampler cid not coming soon
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Post by Swampmist on May 24, 2017 6:34:04 GMT
But these CID changes are largely not about old releases, they are centered on the coming theme books.
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Post by alanryan on May 24, 2017 6:36:57 GMT
But these CID changes are largely not about old releases, they are centered on the coming theme books. but old releases is more need fix than "coming theme books"
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Post by c0deb1ue on May 24, 2017 8:53:30 GMT
There seems to be a lot of work before this theme force makes sense.... more importantly before anything but the knights exemplar is worth taking. I also hope they try and focus the list better than a Jack buff and free solos with no infantry buff...
sounds like it's going to take like half a year+...
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Post by dicebedamned on May 24, 2017 12:04:20 GMT
I'm hoping for a Cinerator Sennie come the Exemplar CID. It just seems odd not to have one when all the other Exemplar types have one. Not sure what he should give to the Cinerators though. I'd like to see it give them something to get them up the board a bit quicker - they are meant to be the eager ones after all. Perhaps give them Advanced Move, or re position.
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Provengreil
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Post by Provengreil on May 24, 2017 12:08:58 GMT
great why they didn't just delete PoM faction As crappy as that sounds just be patient. Patience is a menothian Virtue....I think. I don't think they don't care. Think about Trolls. They have been feeling very unloved recently. Don't they deserve some fixups as well? IDK about patience, but endurance surely is.
And that is the task Menoth has given us: To Endure.
/bonus points to anyone who knows what I'm referencing
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Post by Scrub_of_Menoth on May 24, 2017 13:54:58 GMT
Again, my view has always been that we're getting new models that will go with the Exemplar theme that will give us more options. The new Primecast just reinforced that, given that they're aiming to make theme forces akin to sub-factions and are not adverse to making redundant models (ie: Cygnar long gunners vs. cygnar trencher long gunners) that can be taken in-theme.
'sides, from what I've seen players are leveraging the theme force to great effect.
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Post by macdaddy on May 24, 2017 14:15:30 GMT
Again, my view has always been that we're getting new models that will go with the Exemplar theme that will give us more options. The new Primecast just reinforced that, given that they're aiming to make theme forces akin to sub-factions and are not adverse to making redundant models (ie: Cygnar long gunners vs. cygnar trencher long gunners) that can be taken in-theme. 'sides, from what I've seen players are leveraging the theme force to great effect. If the cinerators got a UA or Solo that gave them some kind of buff that would be awesome. They would certainly be more viable. Bastions need a complete rework though as does the errant UA. Its mostly just vindictus. Harby and testament make it work but with both of them you have to ask yourself is it better to just play out of theme to get idrians and Daughters and flame bringers? But yes, vindictus makes the theme spectacular.
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Provengreil
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Post by Provengreil on May 24, 2017 14:40:14 GMT
So, I listened to the primecast and just got more and more depressed because they're bubbling with creativity and cohesiveness when they talk about trenchers, or banes, or winter guard, etc. Meanwhile, Exemplars get a hand wave with something revenge-ey that isn't strong enough to help much of the time and relies on my opponent only giving casual effort to kill anything, rather than the full force he'd actually bring.
Like, really? A bunker, a purchasable terrain piece? why isn't one of these in Guardians of the Temple? Where's my temple to guard?
All these other themes are buffing their signature unit type. We have 2 infantry themes that give rules to warjacks, and a warjack theme that gives rules to infantry. F*^*#$# WHY?
If PP is seeing this, I know the exemplar CID is so far out it's probably not even dated. Possibly it has a month, more likely a season. But when it comes around, let us wreck the meta. Let us loose upon the field. Bring the best of your creativity, and ours, to the surface and forge the exemplars into the terrifying force of doom they should be.
I want to have something that backs my opponents into a corner. I want my opponents, when list building, to worry about how they're going to kill my stuff. Maybe Exemplars can only be destroyed by attacks. Maybe Kreoss 2 gives an elite cadre to Knights. Hyper Aggressive. Stacking Battle Driven. Relentless Charge. Defensive Strike. Make them fear us like they just don't right now. The solution to menoth should be more than "casually have my reeves shoot you off the board."
/Sorry. Rant over, Modmins delete if necessary
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Post by streetpizza on May 24, 2017 16:37:52 GMT
Considering that it was a NQ release we'll likely actually see the Exemplar book coming up next after the trencher, black fleet and troll books. Give it two months and see if exemplars are in CID.
On the other hand it could be just as likely that our theme book will be focused on Zealotry since we don't have that theme covered yet. So zealots, deliverers and what ever new stuff they want to toss in. I'm hoping for scrutator models and units and some zealot buffing solos.
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