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Sorcha 3
Jul 29, 2018 5:01:58 GMT
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Post by onijet01 on Jul 29, 2018 5:01:58 GMT
Karchev may be Terrible, but S0 will save him from the scrap yard. Wasnt a europiean tourniment last year wone by a team whos strongest player ran karchev as his main? Also the player was a tripple crown winner back in mkii using karchev so.. Yah he is good but takes a skill to play he is not as easy as axe to face that ppl seem to think he is. Though ive not heard about this year yet
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Post by thebuoyancyofwater on Jul 29, 2018 6:14:48 GMT
After they nerfed his feat I know I lost interest in him. Being able to have multiple Khador heavies reliably achieve something without them blowing up or having to invest so much focus in them the caster can't actually do anything was a big part of the draw to him.
The rest of his toolkit is very good (folk seem to really underestimate Battle-Charged), I just think PP need to give him back a way to reasonably help his jacks accuracy. One RAT5 spray doesn't cut it, even when it's boostable (yet more focus drain).
Cheers, Dave
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Sorcha 3
Jul 29, 2018 7:51:38 GMT
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Post by onijet01 on Jul 29, 2018 7:51:38 GMT
After they nerfed his feat I know I lost interest in him. Being able to have multiple Khador heavies reliably achieve something without them blowing up or having to invest so much focus in them the caster can't actually do anything was a big part of the draw to him. The rest of his toolkit is very good (folk seem to really underestimate Battle-Charged), I just think PP need to give him back a way to reasonably help his jacks accuracy. One RAT5 spray doesn't cut it, even when it's boostable (yet more focus drain). Cheers, Dave Agreed it would be nice if his old feat retuned as free charges are so good. Hell id be happy if his feat reworked to add +3 melee attack and damage rolls and free charge keeping magic weapon
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Post by Netherby on Jul 29, 2018 8:00:57 GMT
Karchev may be Terrible, but S0 will save him from the scrap yard. Wasnt a europiean tourniment last year wone by a team whos strongest player ran karchev as his main? Also the player was a tripple crown winner back in mkii using karchev so.. Yah he is good but takes a skill to play he is not as easy as axe to face that ppl seem to think he is. Though ive not heard about this year yet That was prior to his feat being nerfed and prior to Mad Dogs being deleted.
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Post by thebuoyancyofwater on Jul 29, 2018 9:21:37 GMT
After they nerfed his feat I know I lost interest in him. Being able to have multiple Khador heavies reliably achieve something without them blowing up or having to invest so much focus in them the caster can't actually do anything was a big part of the draw to him. The rest of his toolkit is very good (folk seem to really underestimate Battle-Charged), I just think PP need to give him back a way to reasonably help his jacks accuracy. One RAT5 spray doesn't cut it, even when it's boostable (yet more focus drain). Cheers, Dave Agreed it would be nice if his old feat retuned as free charges are so good. Hell id be happy if his feat reworked to add +3 melee attack and damage rolls and free charge keeping magic weapon His feat never gave free charges. It gave his warjacks boosted melee attack and damage rolls, plus magic melee weapons. Cheers, Dave
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Sorcha 3
Jul 29, 2018 9:43:57 GMT
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Post by Soul Samurai on Jul 29, 2018 9:43:57 GMT
His feat never gave free charges. It gave his warjacks boosted melee attack and damage rolls, plus magic melee weapons. I think Onijet was referring to his MkII feat. Although I do find it weird that Karchev is a jack caster who doesn't give free charges.
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Post by Netherby on Jul 29, 2018 15:14:40 GMT
Mk2 feat was free charge/trample + pathfinder and you got to get boosted hit and damage every turn. He was a dark horse that could potentially do okay.
Free charge on feat would help, but that would overlap with S0. What he really needs is to get boosted hit rolls back, I don't think it was unreasonable for him to have a feat that was unique and useful...
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chuggyg
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Post by chuggyg on Jul 30, 2018 18:02:09 GMT
The boosted hit rolls were the main reason the mad dog spam was so powerful. If he had boosted hit rolls again it would just come back in a slightly different form (since the chassis got their cost reduced in the last cid). Nobody likes playing into heavy spam.
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chuggyg
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Post by chuggyg on Jul 30, 2018 18:02:24 GMT
Leave karchev where he belongs (the dumpster)
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Post by Soul Samurai on Jul 30, 2018 18:16:50 GMT
Leave karchev where he belongs (the dumpster)
I don't know if you're just kidding around or if you have something against Karchev (did he sting you as a child?), but that is a strangely hostile and counter productive thing to say. Some of us want to like Karchev and want him to provide a competitive and enjoyable gaming experience. He does not belong in a dumpster, he belongs on the tabletop, and if he isn't viable there for some reason then some of us would like it if he was fixed.
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Post by Netherby on Jul 31, 2018 6:16:14 GMT
The boosted hit rolls were the main reason the mad dog spam was so powerful. If he had boosted hit rolls again it would just come back in a slightly different form (since the chassis got their cost reduced in the last cid). Nobody likes playing into heavy spam. Honestly they were not. Boosted hit rolls were just icing. The thing that made the list work was Jury Rigged. You take that off the Mad Dog and the list no longer works. The other nerfs were completely unnecessary and showed that either PP didn't understand/weren't sure what made the list work or just wanted to set an example of what wouldn't be tolerated.
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