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Post by Soul Samurai on Jul 27, 2018 18:29:11 GMT
One thing that I just noticed was that Sorscha 3 has quite a lot in common with Karchev: Sorscha 3
| Karchev
| Gives warjacks counter-charge
| Gives warjacks counter-charge
| Gives warjacks +2 SPD
| Gives warjacks +3 movement
| Gives warjacks an accuracy boost
| Used to give warjacks an accuracy boost
| Gives warjacks an extra damage dice
| Gives warjacks boosted damage rolls
| Puts down clouds with cold damage
| Puts down clouds with fire damage
| Freezes enemy models with a template
| Knocks down enemy models with a template
| SPD 4 but can spend FOC to go faster
| SPD 4 but can spend FOC to go faster
| DEF 12+2 ARM 18+2
| DEF 12 ARM 19+2
| RNG 2 P+S 19.5-ish
| RNG 2 P+S 19
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I'm not entirely sure how to feel about that.
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Sorcha 3
Jul 27, 2018 18:58:26 GMT
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Post by welshhoppo on Jul 27, 2018 18:58:26 GMT
One thing that I just noticed was that Sorscha 3 has quite a lot in common with Karchev:
Sorscha 3
| Karchev
| Gives warjacks counter-charge
| Gives warjacks counter-charge
| Gives warjacks +2 SPD
| Gives warjacks +3 movement
| Gives warjacks an accuracy boost
| Used to give warjacks an accuracy boost
| Gives warjacks an extra damage dice
| Gives warjacks boosted damage rolls
| Puts down clouds with cold damage
| Puts down clouds with fire damage
| Freezes enemy models with a template
| Knocks down enemy models with a template
| SPD 4 but can spend FOC to go faster
| SPD 4 but can spend FOC to go faster
| DEF 12+2 ARM 18+2
| DEF 12 ARM 19+2
| RNG 2 P+S 19.5-ish
| RNG 2 P+S 19
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I'm not entirely sure how to feel about that.
Its easy. Sorscha has left Vlad for an older sugar daddy. But she's left herself open to his ways (wind blast trumps her feat) in case he decides to come back.
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Sorcha 3
Jul 27, 2018 19:07:01 GMT
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Post by jonnyboy on Jul 27, 2018 19:07:01 GMT
Where are you getting the 19.5 P+S on sorschs3 from?
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Post by Soul Samurai on Jul 27, 2018 19:22:35 GMT
Where are you getting the 19.5 P+S on sorschs3 from? P+S 16, and the extra dice from Shatter averages 3.5 extra damage per hit against models that she can freeze... the point is she has similar damage potential to him (ignoring his feat for the purposes of exaggerating the similarity); he's better against models that can't be frozen, she's better against models (especially high DEF models) that can.
Scratch that; for some reason I thought she still had Shatter. Weird. Did she lose that in CID, or did she never have it?
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Sorcha 3
Jul 27, 2018 19:29:21 GMT
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Post by welshhoppo on Jul 27, 2018 19:29:21 GMT
She never had shatter. she swapped it for pure stationary.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Jul 27, 2018 19:33:52 GMT
She never had shatter. she swapped it for pure stationary. My bad for not reading the card properly. I've edited my original post. Anyway, the point remains that the two have a lot of overlap.
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Post by sand20go on Jul 27, 2018 19:55:04 GMT
She never had shatter. she swapped it for pure stationary. My bad for not reading the card properly. I've edited my original post. Anyway, the point remains that the two have a lot of overlap. Yup. Now if you want to try go see how much overlap Locke and Karchev have when she runs TOROs and sadly how much BETTER she is as a jack caster.
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Sorcha 3
Jul 27, 2018 20:21:13 GMT
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Post by jonnyboy on Jul 27, 2018 20:21:13 GMT
If only you could include S0 with S3!
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Sorcha 3
Jul 28, 2018 3:41:23 GMT
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Post by Soul Samurai on Jul 28, 2018 3:41:23 GMT
If only you could include S0 with S3! I mean, if Haley can do it...
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Post by Netherby on Jul 28, 2018 6:40:14 GMT
Yeah but Haley is Matt Wilsons personal crush.
There is no way we would get something like that...
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Post by chuggyg on Jul 28, 2018 13:59:01 GMT
The key difference being that Sorscha3 actually supports her army and things outside of her battlegroup, while karchev is a crap pile.
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Sorcha 3
Jul 28, 2018 15:20:19 GMT
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Post by The Snark Knight on Jul 28, 2018 15:20:19 GMT
The key difference being that Sorscha3 actually supports her army and things outside of her battlegroup, while karchev is a crap pile. Srsly. If all Karchev is going to do is support his battlegroup, it would be nice if he was at least marginally better at it than the average combined arms caster.
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Sorcha 3
Jul 28, 2018 18:35:27 GMT
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Post by welshhoppo on Jul 28, 2018 18:35:27 GMT
Woah woah woah.
You dissing Karchev?
Outside now, let's be aving you!
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Post by Netherby on Jul 29, 2018 2:22:53 GMT
Karchev may be Terrible, but S0 will save him from the scrap yard.
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Post by thebuoyancyofwater on Jul 29, 2018 4:32:46 GMT
They need to return his feat to it's previous version where he boosted melee attack rolls as well as damage rolls. That was how you got serious efficiency out of his battlegroup on feat turn.
Or (crazy idea incoming): give him Veteran Leader: Friendly Faction Warjack...
Cheers, Dave
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