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Post by smoothcriminal on Jun 22, 2018 17:00:39 GMT
Revealed today at keynote.
Basically an in-faction Sylys.
I guess casters like S1,Z1 or OW2 would like to have both him and Ragman. Would be nice if he shows up somewhere outside Wolves theme. Also you probably can take him as a free solo which makes Wolves a bit better since other than Koldun lords there aren't really good free things there.
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Post by auraco on Jun 22, 2018 17:21:04 GMT
I find him very underwhelming, at the moment he can only be taken in one theme, that already has access to sylys and he trades sylys best ability for Spell barrier, which is totally wasted on someone like Zerkova, who's our prime spell sligning caster.
Also Spell Barrier on an easy to kill model like a greylord frame is not as impressive as the 20 something hit point dervish in menoth.
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Post by Ganso on Jun 22, 2018 17:27:13 GMT
I like Comrade Sylys for no other reason that he frees up our merc solo slot.
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Post by auraco on Jun 22, 2018 17:36:13 GMT
If they don't change the theme forces, it's still only in one theme, and it's very underwhelming. Give it something like arcane reinforcement, guidance or sigil of power and allow it to be taken in other theme than wolves of winter and then we'll be talking.
I will test it in CID, but I'm fully expecting it to be really underwhelming.
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Post by smoothcriminal on Jun 22, 2018 17:38:09 GMT
I imagine buff casters like Irusk or V2 would like the spell barrier over Sylys' mini-hof.
The biggest problem with him is going to be theme availability, yes. Though other factions have their spell attachment in several themes, no reason for us not to. |
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Post by chuggyg on Jun 22, 2018 18:05:22 GMT
I want to believe they'll include it in more themes.
Also the lack of sigil of power is further proof they really dont give a shit about khador anymore
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Post by chuggyg on Jun 22, 2018 18:06:20 GMT
Ill probably fit him into my OW2 regardless but still. This Firetruckin guy.
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Post by auraco on Jun 22, 2018 18:07:58 GMT
But at the moment Irusk doesn't really run Wolves of winter very well and Vlad2 has no uses for the spellcasting abilities. The no spell is also kinda meh is if the adjuct doesn't also have spell ward since it will just mean one spell to kill the adjunct and then back to spelling the caster.
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Post by jonnyboy on Jun 22, 2018 18:26:45 GMT
I imagine buff casters like Irusk or V2 would like the spell barrier over Sylys' mini-hof.
The biggest problem with him is going to be theme availability, yes. Though other factions have their spell attachment in several themes, no reason for us not to. Sylys HoF is pretty amazing on either irusk. It turns his pow 8 air burst into an almost sure kill on pesky solos. This new solo would have to do quite a bit more to replace sylys. |
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Post by snoozer on Jun 22, 2018 18:36:59 GMT
It is a new warcaster attachement. No way that guy stays in one theme only!
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Post by auraco on Jun 22, 2018 19:26:01 GMT
Knee jerk reaction aside, am I in denial if I think he's got a spell list that they haven't spoiled? Because at the momment he would only be good for running because he's got no activated abilities. I'm hoping the good stuff is in the spells since just what was spoiled is underwhelming.
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Post by sand20go on Jun 22, 2018 19:26:52 GMT
If in Jaws then I think has a place in an OW2 list to keep spell hate off her and to provide even more of an extension for the spells (15 inch curse, right?)
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Post by bearstronaut on Jun 22, 2018 19:41:12 GMT
The problem I see with OW2 is that Reinholdt is going to allow you to have much more impact on the game than the Adjunct will. There aren't typically many spells that threaten OW2 anyway. Better to get use out of Reinholdt in every game then sometimes be a little safer with the Adjunct.
I LIKE the Adjunct, but his abilities are too redundant with Sylys. I know that means he 'frees up' a solo slot, but I generally don't see Sylys much anyway when competing with guys like Ragman and Eilish.
Definitely going to have to push hard in CID for this one.
1. Make him available in Jaws. I don't suspect they will ever give him to WGK but that would be the dream considering we can't even take Sylys in it.
2. Give him a unique version of Spell Barrier that works with the warcaster units. Oh great my caster is immune to spells oh wait you just targeted one of the Arguses with Enfeeble... great.
3. Replace Spiritual Conduit with Arcane Repeater. If he's not going to be in every theme, then I see no problem with this. Then you would actually want to take him with the Zerkovas too.
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Post by TrePalle on Jun 22, 2018 19:57:47 GMT
I really dig the model. It has a mixed look between a greylord and a Winterguard officer. From the presentation I think he will be available in more that just the wolves of winter theme force.
Having said that it is true that his abilities are too similar to Sylys. Hopefully they will change a bit in CID
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Post by The Snark Knight on Jun 22, 2018 20:02:27 GMT
Give him a unique version of Spell Barrier that works with the warcaster units. Oh great my caster is immune to spells oh wait you just targeted one of the Arguses with Enfeeble... great. I want this. |
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