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Post by auraco on Jun 22, 2018 20:38:37 GMT
I'll wait for the Spell based warcaster attachement part to be clearer, if he doesn't have spells then he's super underwhelming, if he does have spell I'll wait to see what they are before passing further judgement. I'm also hoping he gets added to more of our theme forces, I'm pretty sure WGK would like to help their spell sligning casters and the theme can't take Sylys anyway.
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Post by Havock on Jun 22, 2018 21:22:03 GMT
If they don't change the theme forces, it's still only in one theme, and it's very underwhelming. Give it something like arcane reinforcement, guidance or sigil of power and allow it to be taken in other theme than wolves of winter and then we'll be talking. I will test it in CID, but I'm fully expecting it to be really underwhelming. If they don't allow him into the other theme forces he's gonna be pretty irrelevant seeing as he'll be stuck in the overpriced melee infantry theme.
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Post by chuggyg on Jun 22, 2018 21:41:27 GMT
Pleaaaaase have sigil of power.
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Post by smoothcriminal on Jun 22, 2018 21:51:57 GMT
We can expect something from usual ice cage, spray, crit freeze aoe, freezer kit. Ice cage in other themes would be nice as hit fixer.
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Post by Ganso on Jun 22, 2018 23:01:39 GMT
I imagine buff casters like Irusk or V2 would like the spell barrier over Sylys' mini-hof. The biggest problem with him is going to be theme availability, yes. Though other factions have their spell attachment in several themes, no reason for us not to. Sylys HoF is pretty amazing on either irusk. It turns his pow 8 air burst into an almost sure kill on pesky solos. This new solo would have to do quite a bit more to replace sylys. It's good, but I believe Irusk rarely takes Sylys because of Arcane Secrets, since he is not spending 3 focus of his limited stack on this each round, or even each game. I much rather have the free upkeep, bring Rags and cast Battle Lust. I think these are actually things Irusk will commonly do each game.
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Post by auraco on Jun 22, 2018 23:47:49 GMT
Pleaaaaase have sigil of power. Yeah this!
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Post by Netherby on Jun 23, 2018 6:45:50 GMT
It can be the most amazing attachment ever, but it won't matter if it doesn't go in any of the themes...
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Post by mcdermott on Jun 23, 2018 7:02:35 GMT
Given the ubiquity of the forgeseer i'd be stunned if this wasn't in a bunch of themes.
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Post by cageyj0nny on Jun 23, 2018 7:04:49 GMT
I imagine buff casters like Irusk or V2 would like the spell barrier over Sylys' mini-hof.
The biggest problem with him is going to be theme availability, yes. Though other factions have their spell attachment in several themes, no reason for us not to. Sylys HoF is pretty amazing on either irusk. It turns his pow 8 air burst into an almost sure kill on pesky solos. This new solo would have to do quite a bit more to replace sylys. Sylys hof does not work on air burst. it specifically says it doesn't effect spells with range self or control.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Jun 23, 2018 7:17:49 GMT
Sylys hof does not work on air burst. it specifically says it doesn't effect spells with range self or control. Where does it say that?
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Post by cageyj0nny on Jun 23, 2018 7:35:23 GMT
Sylys hof does not work on air burst. it specifically says it doesn't effect spells with range self or control. Where does it say that? My bad I was wrong, it's spiritual conduit that I was thinking of. Nothing to see here, carry on.
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Post by Netherby on Jun 23, 2018 7:36:03 GMT
You're reading the wrong part. He doesn't extend the range of those spells, but he still gives them HoF
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Post by Soul Samurai on Jun 23, 2018 7:50:24 GMT
My bad I was wrong, it's spiritual conduit that I was thinking of. Nothing to see here, carry on. Cool.
Did they have any preview images or anything? (Edit: just saw the other thread, nevermind). It feels bit weird that they would have "basically Sylyss in Khador", but now that Mercs aren't as accessible as they used to be it makes sense. It would be nice if he had some combat ability (this is Khador after all). I often take Sylyss in my lists; free upkeeps are nice but even just the +2" just makes life so much easier when you're trying to get your buffs out but you need to spread your models a bit.
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Post by hocestbellum on Jun 23, 2018 9:06:06 GMT
Heh, I was only saying the other day that I thought Khador would get a spell-helper attachment, as we were the only main faction without one
But nah, nothing doing there. If it's truly only available in Wolves it'll never see play until after Wolves gets a CID in two years or so. Even if it's available in other themes it's poor.
We're not really an offensive spellcasting faction, spell barrier is situational, so it's 4 points for a free upkeep. Might have a place in my Sorscha1 list, but given that it's non-theme I can just take Sylys no probs anyway.
EDIT: Herp derp, I can't read. I might well take him with casters like Kozlov, as +2 range and a free upkeep is handy, and he wouldn't need Sylys' Secrets
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Post by thematsjo on Jun 23, 2018 9:31:27 GMT
Do we even have rules for Spell Barrier and Arcane Conduit at this point?
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