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Post by cainuslupus on Jan 6, 2018 1:26:55 GMT
And that's cool and all but it really has shown me that Legion is just not a cohesive faction.. Yes the tool box is great and all but playing legion currently is playing to capitalize on a mistake, or fishing for hot dice or hoping for a gotcha moment of some sort. I had same realization lately. When I win it's usually because I'm pulling some BS assassination. At the same time my opponents are playing different game, with trading they can afford and gameplan that doesn't crumble because opponent had hot dice and your Throne was casually shooted off the table rather than survive by skin on it's teeth. I win enough, I play Legion for some time and you learn bag of tricks but from the moment you're creating list it feels like uphil battle. Maybe it's time to change game entirelly? With that at least level of optimism should skyrocket in this forum.
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gordo
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Post by gordo on Jan 6, 2018 2:59:05 GMT
And that's cool and all but it really has shown me that Legion is just not a cohesive faction.. Yes the tool box is great and all but playing legion currently is playing to capitalize on a mistake, or fishing for hot dice or hoping for a gotcha moment of some sort. I had same realization lately. When I win it's usually because I'm pulling some BS assassination. At the same time my opponents are playing different game, with trading they can afford and gameplan that doesn't crumble because opponent had hot dice and your Throne was casually shooted off the table rather than survive by skin on it's teeth. I win enough, I play Legion for some time and you learn bag of tricks but from the moment you're creating list it feels like uphil battle. Maybe it's time to change game entirelly? With that at least level of optimism should skyrocket in this forum. This is how I felt, and it really crystalized when you play another faction. To realize that you have to work twice as hard as everyone else and your only possible game is to hope your opponent screws up and leave you an opening. And then you realize that most factions play much the same game you are (assassination) with as much competence but without having to rely on it soley.
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Post by davycannonhound on Jan 6, 2018 3:27:24 GMT
Why thankyou! Fair point! Very interesting idea! I'd never thought of it (I always jump to ravens or oracles with vayl). You can't complain about lack of beasts in Primal Terrors, which is nice. The ogrun meatshield just /might/ work with her feat (and ogrun having parry is hilarious). What would you recommend as a trade out for that croak hunter? Not sure our current ogrun work so well as shields. After all, they currently die to shooting almost as easily as the remaining infantry, without BB. But maybe a Hellmouth + Warchief / Warspear Chieftain can do it? But the, nobody is gonna walk into hellmouth range with important pieces ... Not sure if parry on Ogrun is that great, after all you can only use it at the end of the turn, so no attacks. And medium bases are harder to squeeze in. I think I woudl use it most to shoot with warspear (assaults?) and back up, while actually getting the warmonger into melee witha run followed by another advance. Warmongers jamming up ranged infantry like that with a 15" movement might be fun ^^ Fair point. At the most they probably only serve to block LOS due to their larger bases. I said hilarious, not useful (generally when parry is involved its on something nimble and small, not on a 9' tall mountain of muscle, so the accompanying visual is funny, imo).
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