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Post by snotling on May 2, 2017 17:50:56 GMT
What I dont get is two beast mistresses with a shredder each, isn't that a waste?
In my mind one beast mistress and three shredders seem way more usefull.
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Post by neutralyze on May 2, 2017 19:38:36 GMT
What I dont get is two beast mistresses with a shredder each, isn't that a waste? In my mind one beast mistress and three shredders seem way more usefull. Beast mistress in theme should have 2-3 per each one. Two if you're trying to min/max points and have a spawning vessel. |
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Post by snotling on May 3, 2017 5:41:57 GMT
That why i dont get the single shredders in the list
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princeraven
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Shredder spam is best spam
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Post by princeraven on May 3, 2017 6:19:22 GMT
I guess a single Shredder minimises the impact of losing a Beast Mistress to lists that are really good at scalpeling out solos.
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Post by snotling on May 3, 2017 7:52:48 GMT
I guess a single Shredder minimises the impact of losing a Beast Mistress to lists that are really good at scalpeling out solos. sure, but paying 4 points extra to enable a single shredder hardly seems worth it |
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Post by neutralyze on May 3, 2017 13:40:30 GMT
I would like this theme to allow beast mistresses to take nephilim warbeasts. The theme isn't too powerful and it would be thematic for them to take nephilim.
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Post by piedpiperwtf on May 3, 2017 14:05:43 GMT
I would like this theme to allow beast mistresses to take nephilim warbeasts. The theme isn't too powerful and it would be thematic for them to take nephilim. I've played this theme twice now, both times with the twins and never with the beast mistress and the above-mentioned would totally clear up my biggest problem with the theme......no access to slip stream. |
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gordo
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My star is green?
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Post by gordo on May 3, 2017 17:18:14 GMT
I've had mild success with this theme using Thag1, Swordsmen, Hex Hunters, Typhon, 2 * Soldiers, 1 Bloodseer. It has massive access to precision strike and Unyielding + Death Shroud helps the Nephilim survive while maintaining their maneuverability. The problem I find is that with no access to grievous wounds and only one heavy capable of hurting stuff... It suffers a lot vs Hordes. He's Hunters Shadowbind + Precision Strike works pretty well though. I find it's biggest issue is blast damage and electro leaps.
My biggest concern with it is that Nephilim just aren't very "turned up" by it. It turns up their attrition, but you can run much better attrition lists. The only reason I can see use it over Oracles is access to Swordsmen... But there's not much synergy between them and Nephilim.
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Post by piedpiperwtf on May 3, 2017 18:06:38 GMT
If only Vayl had her own Character Heavy!
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Post by fatherlucant on May 17, 2017 17:51:32 GMT
War Room Army
Legion of Everblight - Kallus 2
Theme: Children of the Dragon
2 / 2 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Kallus, Wrath of Everblight - WB: +30
- Nephilim Protector - PC: 10 (Battlegroup Points Used: 10)
- Nephilim Protector - PC: 10 (Battlegroup Points Used: 10)
- Nephilim Protector - PC: 10 (Battlegroup Points Used: 10)
- Nephilim Bolt Thrower - PC: 11
- Nephilim Bolt Thrower - PC: 11
Incubus - 5 Incubi: 6
Blighted Nyss Warlord - PC: 5
Blighted Nyss Shepherd - PC: 1
Blighted Nyss Shepherd - PC: 1
Blighted Nyss Shepherd - PC: 1
Spell Martyr - PC: 1
Spell Martyr - PC: 1
Blighted Nyss Swordsmen - Leader & 9 Grunts: 15
- Blighted Nyss Swordsmen Abbot & Champion - Abbot & Champion: 0
Blighted Nyss Swordsmen - Leader & 9 Grunts: 15
- Blighted Nyss Swordsmen Abbot & Champion - Abbot & Champion: 0
Spawning Vessel - Vessel & 6 Grunts: 7
THEME: Children of the Dragon
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GENERATED : 05/16/2017 20:45:05
BUILD ID : 2039.17-03-16
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Whiskie
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Post by Whiskie on May 17, 2017 18:21:20 GMT
If only Vayl had her own Character Heavy! It'd of course be awesome if she did but I'm not sure it'd do very much to improve this theme. Azrael and Zuriel should be allowed in the theme regardless of casters taken. That'd actually give it some teeth. |
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Post by neutralyze on May 17, 2017 20:30:57 GMT
I agree that the theme is so restrictive that offering Azrael and zuriel in the theme wouldn't be too powerful
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Post by piedpiperwtf on May 17, 2017 21:10:29 GMT
If only Vayl had her own Character Heavy! It'd of course be awesome if she did but I'm not sure it'd do very much to improve this theme. Azrael and Zuriel should be allowed in the theme regardless of casters taken. That'd actually give it some teeth. if that was the case Kallus2 would shine in this theme. |
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Post by ForEver_Blight on May 17, 2017 22:48:17 GMT
Offering Zuriel would be fine. Giving out Azrael to everyone gets a little iffy. Azrael and Typhon with Thagrosh stops being a CoD theme. It's not terribly powerful but you just loose the fluffy point of having a theme.
Edit: pow19 spears with Thags one may be a bit over the top... the point was to make not playing in theme have it's benefits and drawbacks.
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Post by neutralyze on May 18, 2017 14:51:47 GMT
Offering Zuriel would be fine. Giving out Azrael to everyone gets a little iffy. Azrael and Typhon with Thagrosh stops being a CoD theme. It's not terribly powerful but you just loose the fluffy point of having a theme. Edit: pow19 spears with Thags one may be a bit over the top... the point was to make not playing in theme have it's benefits and drawbacks. You can have pow 19 spears now not in theme. It makes no difference. Again, the theme is already overly restrictive that allowing the two nephilim character heavies wouldn't break it with anyone, thagrosh1 included. |
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