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Post by maximumhippo on Apr 29, 2017 4:19:41 GMT
Sadly helions are not free in CotD. Huge lameness. Abbot and Champ cost the same and are free. Kind of a wash IMO.
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Post by Lanz on Apr 29, 2017 8:13:21 GMT
As are Incubi. I think it's okay.
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Post by neutralyze on Apr 29, 2017 20:19:57 GMT
Kryssa does COTD pretty well. Really it's the power of beast Mistresses and shredders with her. Is there any particular list? I can't wrap my head around this concept TBH... War Room Army Legion of Everblight - Kryssa COTD Theme: Children of the Dragon 3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army Kryssa, Conviction of Everblight - WB: +31 - Azrael - PC: 21 (Battlegroup Points Used: 21) - Nephilim Soldier - PC: 9 (Battlegroup Points Used: 9) - Nephilim Soldier - PC: 9 (Battlegroup Points Used: 1) - Nephilim Soldier - PC: 9 - Nephilim Bolt Thrower - PC: 11 Beast Mistress - PC: 0 - Shredder - PC: 4 - Shredder - PC: 4 Beast Mistress - PC: 0 - Shredder - PC: 4 - Shredder - PC: 4 - Shredder - PC: 4 Blighted Nyss Shepherd - PC: 1 Blighted Nyss Shepherd - PC: 1 Spawning Vessel - Vessel & 6 Grunts: 7 Blighted Nyss Hex Hunters - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9 - Bayal, Hound of Everblight - PC: 0 Blackfrost Shard - Sevryn, Rhylyss & Vysarr: 9 THEME: Children of the Dragon --- GENERATED : 04/29/2017 16:19:14 BUILD ID : 2038.17-03-15
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Post by cainuslupus on Apr 30, 2017 21:55:46 GMT
Is there any particular list? I can't wrap my head around this concept TBH... War Room Army Legion of Everblight - Kryssa COTD Theme: Children of the Dragon 3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army Kryssa, Conviction of Everblight - WB: +31 - Azrael - PC: 21 (Battlegroup Points Used: 21) - Nephilim Soldier - PC: 9 (Battlegroup Points Used: 9) - Nephilim Soldier - PC: 9 (Battlegroup Points Used: 1) - Nephilim Soldier - PC: 9 - Nephilim Bolt Thrower - PC: 11 Beast Mistress - PC: 0 - Shredder - PC: 4 - Shredder - PC: 4 Beast Mistress - PC: 0 - Shredder - PC: 4 - Shredder - PC: 4 - Shredder - PC: 4 Blighted Nyss Shepherd - PC: 1 Blighted Nyss Shepherd - PC: 1 Spawning Vessel - Vessel & 6 Grunts: 7 Blighted Nyss Hex Hunters - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9 - Bayal, Hound of Everblight - PC: 0 Blackfrost Shard - Sevryn, Rhylyss & Vysarr: 9 THEME: Children of the Dragon --- GENERATED : 04/29/2017 16:19:14 BUILD ID : 2038.17-03-15 Thank you. I've thought about similar core (triple Soldiers, Azrael and some other Nephilim), but thought about including Swordsmen. I mean, what makes giving fragile solo 12 points worth of lessers good idea? Yes, they hit hard but Kryssa does nothing to deliver them... And why Hexhunters and not Swordsmen?
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Post by piedpiperwtf on May 1, 2017 1:16:29 GMT
War Room Army Legion of Everblight - Kryssa COTD Theme: Children of the Dragon 3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army Kryssa, Conviction of Everblight - WB: +31 - Azrael - PC: 21 (Battlegroup Points Used: 21) - Nephilim Soldier - PC: 9 (Battlegroup Points Used: 9) - Nephilim Soldier - PC: 9 (Battlegroup Points Used: 1) - Nephilim Soldier - PC: 9 - Nephilim Bolt Thrower - PC: 11 Beast Mistress - PC: 0 - Shredder - PC: 4 - Shredder - PC: 4 Beast Mistress - PC: 0 - Shredder - PC: 4 - Shredder - PC: 4 - Shredder - PC: 4 Blighted Nyss Shepherd - PC: 1 Blighted Nyss Shepherd - PC: 1 Spawning Vessel - Vessel & 6 Grunts: 7 Blighted Nyss Hex Hunters - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9 - Bayal, Hound of Everblight - PC: 0 Blackfrost Shard - Sevryn, Rhylyss & Vysarr: 9 THEME: Children of the Dragon --- GENERATED : 04/29/2017 16:19:14 BUILD ID : 2038.17-03-15 Thank you. I've thought about similar core (triple Soldiers, Azrael and some other Nephilim), but thought about including Swordsmen. I mean, what makes giving fragile solo 12 points worth of lessers good idea? Yes, they hit hard but Kryssa does nothing to deliver them... And why Hexhunters and not Swordsmen? ad, prowl, shadowbind, and hexblast make for better jam unit.
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Post by neutralyze on May 1, 2017 14:25:39 GMT
War Room Army Legion of Everblight - Kryssa COTD Theme: Children of the Dragon 3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army Kryssa, Conviction of Everblight - WB: +31 - Azrael - PC: 21 (Battlegroup Points Used: 21) - Nephilim Soldier - PC: 9 (Battlegroup Points Used: 9) - Nephilim Soldier - PC: 9 (Battlegroup Points Used: 1) - Nephilim Soldier - PC: 9 - Nephilim Bolt Thrower - PC: 11 Beast Mistress - PC: 0 - Shredder - PC: 4 - Shredder - PC: 4 Beast Mistress - PC: 0 - Shredder - PC: 4 - Shredder - PC: 4 - Shredder - PC: 4 Blighted Nyss Shepherd - PC: 1 Blighted Nyss Shepherd - PC: 1 Spawning Vessel - Vessel & 6 Grunts: 7 Blighted Nyss Hex Hunters - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9 - Bayal, Hound of Everblight - PC: 0 Blackfrost Shard - Sevryn, Rhylyss & Vysarr: 9 THEME: Children of the Dragon --- GENERATED : 04/29/2017 16:19:14 BUILD ID : 2038.17-03-15 Thank you. I've thought about similar core (triple Soldiers, Azrael and some other Nephilim), but thought about including Swordsmen. I mean, what makes giving fragile solo 12 points worth of lessers good idea? Yes, they hit hard but Kryssa does nothing to deliver them... And why Hexhunters and not Swordsmen? The beast mistress is easy to keep safe. Her warbeasts run or charge for free no matter if they're in her control range or not. With proper use of shredders you can energizer them forward 2" and walk away and then run the shepherd into the right spot to force them. The neph soldiers are great at getting flank to work for shredders. You charge in on feat, do damage to the heavy or heavies and have the flanking shredders finish them off. It works quite well and it's one of the only warlocks I like the mistresses with.
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Post by fossilfinder on May 1, 2017 19:17:42 GMT
Given how spread out some of the new zones are in SR17 and the lack of other Junior options in Legion the above list might be worth trying out for Scenario. If only I owned that many Soldiers though haha.
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Post by neutralyze on May 1, 2017 19:59:59 GMT
Given how spread out some of the new zones are in SR17 and the lack of other Junior options in Legion the above list might be worth trying out for Scenario. If only I owned that many Soldiers though haha. If you played in MK1 you would . I understand though.
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Post by fossilfinder on May 1, 2017 20:51:23 GMT
Given how spread out some of the new zones are in SR17 and the lack of other Junior options in Legion the above list might be worth trying out for Scenario. If only I owned that many Soldiers though haha. If you played in MK1 you would . I understand though. I've owned a copy of Hordes: Metamorphosis and was interested in the game since Mk1, but that's about as close as I got .
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Post by cainuslupus on May 2, 2017 8:56:49 GMT
If only I owned that many Soldiers though haha. I do. Two I've got from different sales, new plastic one bought on a sale. I've fielded them once, in MK2 and regretted it 😊
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Post by DanX on May 2, 2017 10:02:46 GMT
I only own 2, I find them really good. The best use I had with them was with Bethayne in early Mk3, where they and the bloodseer would run forwards and be near enough to lots of stuff to use the feat. I think 2 might be enough. I'm thinking take less free things, and less beasts. | Legion Army - 68 / 75 points [Theme] Children of the Dragon
(Kryssa 1) Kryssa, Conviction of Everblight [+31][*]Azrael [21] [*]Nephilim Bloodseer [8] [*]Nephilim Soldier [9] [*]Nephilim Soldier [9]
Beast Mistress [4]Beast Mistress [4]Blighted Nyss Shepherd [1] Blighted Nyss Shepherd [1] Blighted Nyss Shepherd [1] Incubus (5) [0(6)] Incubus (5) [0(6)] Spell Martyr [1] Spell Martyr [1] Spell Martyr [1] Blackfrost Shard [9] Blighted Nyss Hex Hunters (max) [15][*]Bayal, Hound of Everblight [6]
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Post by piedpiperwtf on May 2, 2017 14:44:39 GMT
I only own 2, I find them really good. The best use I had with them was with Bethayne in early Mk3, where they and the bloodseer would run forwards and be near enough to lots of stuff to use the feat. I think 2 might be enough. I'm thinking take less free things, and less beasts. | Legion Army - 68 / 75 points [Theme] Children of the Dragon
(Kryssa 1) Kryssa, Conviction of Everblight [+31][*]Azrael [21] [*]Nephilim Bloodseer [8] [*]Nephilim Soldier [9] [*]Nephilim Soldier [9]
Beast Mistress [4]Beast Mistress [4]Blighted Nyss Shepherd [1] Blighted Nyss Shepherd [1] Blighted Nyss Shepherd [1] Incubus (5) [0(6)] Incubus (5) [0(6)] Spell Martyr [1] Spell Martyr [1] Spell Martyr [1] Blackfrost Shard [9] Blighted Nyss Hex Hunters (max) [15][*]Bayal, Hound of Everblight [6]
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the beast mistress loses a little flair without the spawning vessel to refill her battlegroup.
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Post by neutralyze on May 2, 2017 16:22:12 GMT
I also don't think that paying 6 points for 4 hex hunters is worth it. The 7 man won bayal is good enough for applying shadow bond, jamming and causing problems.
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Post by shroomvolcano on May 2, 2017 16:58:27 GMT
If you dump Hex Hunters you lose Incubi spawns, and he has twelve of them.
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Post by Lanz on May 2, 2017 17:39:24 GMT
If you dump Hex Hunters you lose Incubi spawns, and he has twelve of them. He could drop one of the incubi and get his bayal for free instead. That'd be 12 points to do something else with. Though, myself, I prefer the full unit. Min unit might be fine for stalling heavies and the like, but I would like the option to be able to tackle infantry effectively with them as well. With the new Cryx theme list in CID, we may see a resurgance of banespam, and may have to start considering serious anti-infantry lists again.
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