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Post by greytemplar on May 28, 2017 19:26:33 GMT
Which we are grateful for. But muchgame,e desiike George Lucas and Star Wars, perhaps his time running the show needs to end before he destroys his own creation. But really he just needs a reality check and to actually see what the game has become, not what he wants it to be in his little fantasy bubble. I mean, I kinda felt the same RE your vessel suggestions, so whos the arbiter of balance here? It ahould be the people who actually play the game. IE not Soles We are better arbiters of game balance given that many of the game designers have shown colossal ignorence and incompetence in regards to their own product. ideally this would not be nthe case, but it iw what it is. Pagani should probably take over Soles job because he at least is steeped in how people actually play the game. Any other comapany which had some high ranking people do and say the things Soles and Hungerford did would have sacked them. Pissing off and insulting customers directly, and showing almost total ignorence about the product. Heads would have rolled.
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Post by tapecrawler on May 28, 2017 19:42:53 GMT
Just my opinion but I guess I'm more tolerant with the various rules mistakes and model interaction flubs PP staff has made in the past. Thinking about the playtesting that they do there gives me a headache. Can you imagine trying to remember all of the rules for all of the models while they are in a state of constant flux? They've mentioned on more than one occasion about how they were working on MKIII since MKII was released. That plus new errata combined with proposed errata while also trying to try different rules out for the unreleased models just seems like entirely too much for the staff of a small company that doesn't have dedicated playtesters.
Now the condescension towards customers that don't share their vision of the way things are supposed to be, that is totally uncool.
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Post by Cryptix on May 28, 2017 19:45:52 GMT
I mean, I kinda felt the same RE your vessel suggestions, so whos the arbiter of balance here? It ahould be the people who actually play the game. IE not Soles We are better arbiters of game balance given that many of the game designers have shown colossal ignorence and incompetence in regards to their own product. ideally this would not be nthe case, but it iw what it is. Pagani should probably take over Soles job because he at least is steeped in how people actually play the game. Any other comapany which had some high ranking people do and say the things Soles and Hungerford did would have sacked them. Pissing off and insulting customers directly, and showing almost total ignorence about the product. Heads would have rolled. The developers know what is going to be released. They have to judge how things are,going to look not just now, but in the future as well. On that note... We Have PPS_Strawman for a reason. If it was up to me, this entire thread wouldn't exist. My bombard is ready.
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Post by paradox on May 28, 2017 19:46:45 GMT
I mean, I kinda felt the same RE your vessel suggestions, so whos the arbiter of balance here? It ahould be the people who actually play the game. IE not Soles We are better arbiters of game balance given that many of the game designers have shown colossal ignorence and incompetence in regards to their own product. ideally this would not be nthe case, but it iw what it is. Pagani should probably take over Soles job because he at least is steeped in how people actually play the game. Any other comapany which had some high ranking people do and say the things Soles and Hungerford did would have sacked them. Pissing off and insulting customers directly, and showing almost total ignorence about the product. Heads would have rolled. This speaks volumes to me, but probably not how you intended.
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Post by greytemplar on May 28, 2017 19:52:51 GMT
It ahould be the people who actually play the game. IE not Soles We are better arbiters of game balance given that many of the game designers have shown colossal ignorence and incompetence in regards to their own product. ideally this would not be nthe case, but it iw what it is. Pagani should probably take over Soles job because he at least is steeped in how people actually play the game. Any other comapany which had some high ranking people do and say the things Soles and Hungerford did would have sacked them. Pissing off and insulting customers directly, and showing almost total ignorence about the product. Heads would have rolled. This speaks volumes to me, but probably not how you intended. I'm sure it does. But you shouldnt defend these guys. They're unworthy of being White Knighted for I'm also not saying we are the best designers available. Just that we'd be better than what the dudes PP has currently are(pagani excluded). That's more that they have a pretty bad perspective, not that we're so totally awsome.
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Post by Swampmist on May 28, 2017 20:15:49 GMT
ok, we're done here. We have a rule about not attacking actual PP staff for a reason, and at this point any hint of positivity that could come from this discussion has been exhausted. Locking this down
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