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Post by skurkious on Aug 29, 2019 15:17:46 GMT
Its pretty fun kicking off a Scaverous feat turn with 20 or so focus and turning the opponent's entire army around. How would you get him to 20 focus exactly? Lucky Feast of Worms? Erebus ate like 5 doomreavers and the revenants with soul harvester ate like 5 and then Scaverous got some with a thresher. I never actually cast FoW in that game.
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Post by skurkious on Aug 28, 2019 16:26:40 GMT
Gamingdevil, I like that second list and would only need to get the Cutthroats to run it. Its pretty fun kicking off a Scaverous feat turn with 20 or so focus and turning the opponent's entire army around. I planned on using the other list into anything with heavier armor and using the Scaverous list when I needed to spread out more for scenario or to counter a list.
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Post by skurkious on Aug 27, 2019 15:20:58 GMT
Gamingdevil, what does a typical Scaverous list look like to you? I love his kit but haven't really seen anyone play him since all our "original" Cryx players left our meta. I've only really been playing Cryx since early this year so my experience is limited. That list actually started out as a way to max his feat with models that cast offensive spells but with the oblivion changes it lost Deathjack, Siren and Wrathe and ended up as it is now. I really considered switching to Dark Host but hadn't used my banes in quite sometime and didn't want to shake things up at the last minute.
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Post by skurkious on Aug 27, 2019 15:11:07 GMT
How on earth do you go undefeated but not place first? Was it supposed to be 4 rounds but ended after 3...? 12 players means there are 3 undefeated after round 3. If it's a small local tournament, it's possible that they only planned 3 rounds to begin with, because 4 rounds in a single day can actually be kind of rough on people. skurkious That's an unexpected Scaverous list, I'm glad to see it got work done. I was reading that paragraph and was going to say that Bonds of Woe only works on living models, but you noticed it yourself. With Asphyxious 3, doesn't it bother you that the Kraken doesn't benefit from Carapace? There were 3 before round 3 but like I said, they didn't want to play each other and couldn't decide who would play me so we all just played down. Everyone was just being chill and having fun so I didn't feel like arguing. Just need to watch scenario more in the future to not worry about it! Yes, all the time. He does get unyielding and I put a lot of effort into trying to screen him and healing up the damage he did take. Honestly he was only in the list because I was forcing myself to use him. I probably would have preferred a couple ranged heavies to help spread out.
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Post by skurkious on Aug 26, 2019 16:28:35 GMT
So just participated in a small 12 person steamroller last weekend.
[Theme] The Ghost Fleet
[Scaverous 1] Lord Exhumator Scaverous [+27]
- Deathripper [6]
- Defiler [8]
- Erebus [16]
Agrimony, Crone of the Dying Strands [4]
Captain Rengrave [0(5)]
Eilish Garrity, the Occultist [5]
Hellslinger Phantom [0(7)]
Pistol Wraith [5]
Pistol Wraith [5]
Blackbane's Ghost Raiders (max) [17]
Revenant Cannon Crew [5]
Revenant Crew of the Atramentous (max) [16]
- Revenant Crew Rifleman (3) [0(6)]
Wraith Engine [15]
[Theme] Black Industries
[Asphyxious 3] Asphyxious the Hellbringer [+24]
- Cankerworm [9]
- Deathripper [6]
- Kraken [35]
- Ripjaw [7]
- Seether [13]
- Slayer [10]
Hellslinger Phantom [0(7)]
Warwitch Siren [0(4)]
Black Ogrun Ironmongers [6]
Mechanithralls (max) [9]
- Brute Thrall (3) [0(6)]
Necrosurgeon & Stitch Thralls [4]
Went 3-0 but came in 3rd because I suck at scenario.
Game 1(King of the Hill) vs Kraye in SotT with 2 Centurions, Stormclad, Black 13th, Cyclone, Strangeways, Caine0, Ace and Squire. I played Gaspy and I think just really surprised my opponent at how fast I was and he kind of forgot about my ambush unit which tied up half his army. The Kraken, Cankerworm and the Slayer were able to walk to the 2 centurions and kill both with some nice rolls. He was a little too conservative with the stormclad so wasn't able to charge Gaspy through a forest and instead trampled. Still managed to hit me on two unboosted attacks but left me one something like 9 boxes with Kraye sitting in the open with his back to the slayer. I totally messed up though and didn't clear zones for scenario before going for the assassination and would come to regret it later.
Game 2(Recon II) vs Ossrum and the bunny list. I took Gaspy again and it was quite a grind. He kept throwing bashers in front of the Kraken to slow it down and took down the slayer and seether with the loss of only 1 driller. My mechanithralls proceeded to fail miserably to take out the hammer dwarves and the lone gunbunny he put in their path. I was feeling pretty overwhelmed again on scenario but go lucky because my opponent had to go whole hog on my feat turn so Gaspy was sitting on 20+ focus. I got the defiler within 8 inches of Ossy and proceeded to hellfire him into the dirt but scored 0 points.
Game 3(Anarchy) vs Sorscha1 and ALL THE DOOMREAVERS!!!! This game was actually against a guy I play a lot and I'd say we are pretty even but I was happy to be playing a list I had seen before because I was getting pretty drained mentally at this point. I play Scaverous as he seemed better suited for this scenario. Most of the game was me killing doomreavers, then the ternions killing my guys and bringing them back, then me adding more with the cannon and Rengrave. AND before you say it, this was at least the 5th game we had played with that list and only on the drive back home did we realize that Bonds of Woe only works on living models! The attrition was interesting though because it pretty much came down to him having full units on one flank and me having a full unit of Revenant crew(although he had got the leader with a BoW) on the other. He was up 5-1 on scenario though and I was feeling the pressure to go for an assassination. Luckily I had one last arc node left to get within range of def 18 Sorscha. Turns out Scaverous is really good at assassinating on his feat when he starts with 16 focus. I did remember to set myself up for 2 points before ending it but still came in last in points among the 3-0 players. It was kind of a weird scenario because the top two players were father and son and wanted to play other people so we all just ended up playing down.
All in all, it was a really fun time and got to meet a bunch of new people and everyone was very chill and having a good time.
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Post by skurkious on Aug 8, 2019 17:22:11 GMT
Has anyone tried spamming storm trolls? I suppose that wouldn't be very good into anything but Harby. The lightning generator shots aren't hitting hard enough to force her to martyr excessively so I don't really see it doing much Yeah you would have to couple them with Mortality or Calamity or Calandra/Horgle's feat. I was just thinking they can shield guard it away but it is still going to bounce to other models. Just overload martyrdom. Probably just not realistic to spam any of our lights.
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Post by skurkious on Aug 8, 2019 16:36:05 GMT
Has anyone tried spamming storm trolls? I suppose that wouldn't be very good into anything but Harby.
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Post by skurkious on Aug 2, 2019 16:07:23 GMT
So there is a Meat Thresher on discount at my LGS and I really want it but I can't figure out any way to fit it into a theme list. Are we forced to play OOT if we want to take a minions BE?
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Post by skurkious on Jul 25, 2019 15:29:25 GMT
Did they change Precursors to sacred ward instead of spell ward??
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Post by skurkious on Jul 19, 2019 17:48:00 GMT
Well, although I think that we do need the improvements desperately, but are we supposed to have ther priority still, despite we are already had some CIDs dedicated for us before? We have some issues, but not only Cygnar(and Trollbloods) are the faction with the problems after all.... But I can still hope can't I? Who would you put in before them in priority. Its been since early MKIII since either has been touched and they are falling behind in a lot of ways.
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Post by skurkious on Jul 19, 2019 15:18:31 GMT
Stone and Mortar Stance. I can't think of a Trollier stubborn ability then that. Appropriate to Runeshapers rock manipulation fluff. Small unit. ARM 20, independent of KSB, but only if they don't move or don't attack. Can operate to contest or hold a zone far away from the PoD warbeast brick. And we don't have a Harbinger to keep 'em ever present. Oh wait, Archon I really like this. Maybe an action where they use "stone shield" or something? Would definitely incentivise me to take a unit or two.
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Post by skurkious on Jul 19, 2019 15:13:56 GMT
I have a hard time justifying two WEs. They just don't seem to get enough done on their own, especially when I look at some of the newer BEs. Are you just hoping the opponent doesn't have enough magic weapons to remove them? It's not really about hoping. Even when Magical Weapons are available, there's a lot of things that don't one round a Wraith Engine. Most often the tech comes from Guidance or something similar, so only a couple of models can benefit from it at most. You stay away from the models that can one-round you and still have a large part of the board as your playing field. Especially when playing 2, so you can go wide, the tech models can't be everywhere at once. They are definitely best with Skarre 1 though. I mean I've seen them used effectively that way but just blows my mind that spending 30 points on pieces that just take up space is efficient!
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Post by skurkious on Jul 19, 2019 15:09:34 GMT
Remember that Will H specifically said that they wouldn't be making a bunch of changes as part of this and have a lot they know about that needs attention. Fingers crossed that Cygnar and Trolls are up on the docket for the next CID.
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Post by skurkious on Jul 18, 2019 15:41:30 GMT
I have a hard time justifying two WEs. They just don't seem to get enough done on their own, especially when I look at some of the newer BEs. Are you just hoping the opponent doesn't have enough magic weapons to remove them?
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Post by skurkious on Jun 25, 2019 15:44:43 GMT
LOL half the players like consistency and half like constant updates. Quite a balancing act.
I like the change. Gives so much more flexibility within themes and don't have to worry about being down 20 points of "free" models if you want to diverge a bit.
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