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Post by paradox on Nov 25, 2018 1:20:41 GMT
You realize Vengeance will just get them ignored harder, right? They tend to get ignored in my games too. Which is fine because MAT7 PS13 CMA gets reasonable work done. Low volume, but decent quality. The best use is running in formation to positions that annoy or obstruct. Then taking attacks of opportunity from there. But a glut of shield guards at ARM21 is really strong. They arent meta changes, but a solid option. Unless you face alot of guns, because now FM shuts that shit down.
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Post by macdaddy on Nov 25, 2018 2:51:24 GMT
You realize Vengeance will just get them ignored harder, right? They tend to get ignored in my games too. Which is fine because MAT7 PS13 CMA gets reasonable work done. Low volume, but decent quality. The best use is running in formation to positions that annoy or obstruct. Then taking attacks of opportunity from there. But a glut of shield guards at ARM21 is really strong. They arent meta changes, but a solid option. Unless you face alot of guns, because now FM shuts that shit down. I mean it was already a really solid gunline Drop for me. But these guys make it a sure fire middle finger to shooting
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Hashmal
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Post by Hashmal on Nov 25, 2018 3:36:30 GMT
FM was not a great gunline drop for me at all. But I play into good Cygnar often, so my perception is skewed.
The Initiates as is change that. I'm with dox in thinking they are 8 points of good value now. 7 seems too cheap for what they do.
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Post by macdaddy on Nov 25, 2018 14:35:58 GMT
FM was not a great gunline drop for me at all. But I play into good Cygnar often, so my perception is skewed. The Initiates as is change that. I'm with dox in thinking they are 8 points of good value now. 7 seems too cheap for what they do. It’s bad when you skew Idrians. But with durst, the solo boat (2 Champs, 2 monks, Villmon) and Templars/Large BG it’s surprisingly resilient to Most gunlines.
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Post by Hashmal on Nov 25, 2018 18:48:19 GMT
I think the argument there is that Durst and ARM skew are good into gunlines.
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Post by macdaddy on Nov 26, 2018 0:07:54 GMT
I think the argument there is that Durst and ARM skew are good into gunlines. Cyrenia does it too
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Post by macdaddy on Nov 27, 2018 0:54:28 GMT
paradox you fool you got initiates bumped back to 8 points! Now I have to spend the rest of the week trying to get them back to 7.
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Post by paradox on Nov 28, 2018 15:32:13 GMT
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Post by streetpizza on Jan 29, 2019 18:45:43 GMT
So the initiates are free in faithful masses, is that enough to convince people to max out on them?
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Post by mydnight on Jan 29, 2019 20:00:05 GMT
So the initiates are free in faithful masses, is that enough to convince people to max out on them? I hope this doesn't mean they got nerfed post-cid (e.g. lose shield guard and cost reduced to 7).
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Post by anonbyproxy on Jan 29, 2019 20:36:12 GMT
I'm waiting for some final rules, but I like the sculpts/fluff enough that i'm getting them regardless.
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Post by W0lfBane on Feb 1, 2019 19:28:28 GMT
Does anyone know when they come out?
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Post by paradox on Feb 1, 2019 19:44:56 GMT
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Post by W0lfBane on Feb 3, 2019 18:09:55 GMT
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Post by Zeykk on Feb 8, 2019 17:25:14 GMT
They're live on Warroom. 7 points They seem pretty good to me.
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