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Post by faehrmann on Mar 6, 2017 23:06:55 GMT
So the Old Witch became a colossal and is currently being tested in CID.
Have any of you seen her ? Or did you already get a game in ?
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Post by HereComesTomorrow on Mar 6, 2017 23:35:14 GMT
Saw her rules, massively disappointed.
Bland spell list, Zerkova1 knock off abilities, rubbish feat.
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Post by faehrmann on Mar 7, 2017 0:05:45 GMT
That does not sound so good. Can the CID rules spoilered or is there an NDA ?
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Post by Swampmist on Mar 7, 2017 0:08:10 GMT
No NDA to our knowledge (if there was playtesting would be much harder )
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Post by HereComesTomorrow on Mar 7, 2017 0:14:25 GMT
Zevanna Agha, The Fate Keeper Khador Battle Engine Warcaster OLD WITCH 2 SPD STR MAT RAT DEF ARM CMD FOC 5 12 5 5 12 19 8 7 FA: C Warjack Points: +29 Base Size: Huge Damage: 20
Feat: Hour of Reckoning The Old Witch gains the benefit of all three of her Arcane Machinery effects this activation. Additionally, the Old Witch’s magic attacks are boosted this activation.
OLD WITCH 2 Pathfinder Arcane Machinery - Once per turn at any time during its activation, this model can choose to use one of the following effects. Arcane Machinery effects last for one turn. •Arcane Calibrations - Reduce the COST of spells this model casts this activation by 1. •Divinator - While in this model’s control range, models in its battlegroup gain Future Sight. (A model with Future Sight can boost attack and damage rolls after rolling.) •Range Amplifier - When this model casts a spell and is the point of origin for the spell, the spell gains +5 RNG.
Dual Attack - This model can make melee and ranged attacks in the same activation. When this model makes its initial melee attacks or a power attack, it can also make its initial ranged attacks. This model can make ranged attacks even while in melee.
Repairable - This model can be targeted with Repair special actions as if it were a construct model.
WEAPONS [OLD WITCH 2] Carrion Crows [1x] (<—>) gun icon RNG: 10 ROF: 1 AOE: 4 POW: - Damage Type: Magical Black Wings - Instead of suffering a damage roll, a living or undead model hit by this weapon suffer Blind for one round. The AOE is a cloud effect and hazard that remains in play for one round. An enemy living or undead model entering or ending its activation in the AOE suffer 1 point of magical damage XICONX. This model is not affected by Black Wings. (A model suffering Blind cannot make ranged or magic attacks, suffers –4 MAT and DEF, and cannot run, charge, or make slam or trample power attacks. It must forfeit either its Normal Movement or Combat Action during its next activation. Blind can be shaken.) Stomp [2x] (Left and Right) sword icon RNG: 2 POW: 3 P+S: 15
SPELLS Cost RNG AOE POW DUR OFF Boundless Charge 2 6 – – Turn No During its activation, target friendly Faction model can charge without spending focus or being forced and gains +2˝ movement and Pathfinder XICONX when it charges. Boundless Charge lasts for one turn.
Curse of Shadows 3 8 – – UP Yes Target model/unit suffers –2 ARM and cannot make free strikes. A model can advance through an affected model if it has enough movement to move completely past its base.
Reconstruct 3 6 – – UP No When target large-based or smaller warjack in the spellcaster’s battlegroup is disabled by an enemy attack at any time except while it is advancing, place it anywhere completely within 3˝ of its current location. Remove 1 damage point from each system, then Reconstruct expires.
Scourge 4 8 3 13 – Yes Models hit by this attack become knocked down.
Windstorm 3 Self Ctrl – RND No While in the spellcaster’s control range, enemy models suffer –5 RNG on their ranged attacks. When an enemy AOE ranged attack deviates from a point in this model’s control range, after determining the deviation distance, you choose the deviation direction. Windstorm lasts for one round.
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Post by Swampmist on Mar 7, 2017 0:16:01 GMT
I really think you are underselling 7 boundless charges a turn here
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Post by faehrmann on Mar 7, 2017 0:22:26 GMT
I think she looks interesting. She can have a caster attachement, that means either two times black crow or +3 Range from the Wishnailer. Choices, choices ...
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Post by HereComesTomorrow on Mar 7, 2017 0:23:23 GMT
Okay, I misread her Arcane Machine rules and assumed they only effected one spell a turn. She's better than I though at first, I'm still a bit disappointed that her main play looks to be charging a heavy through enemy models for an assassination though. I would have liked a bit more finesse and trickery.
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Post by Aegis on Mar 7, 2017 0:37:53 GMT
She seems to be a buffer (boundless charge, future sight) for her bg and a very good spell assassin. She would probably even be OP if Khador had an Arc-Node, but luckly the only one they had has become her house.
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Post by cplmustard on Mar 7, 2017 2:04:57 GMT
I think she's got potential to be nuts, with A+H she can get a 4 point arm and def swing on anything, or a knockdown. With future sight and artillery kapitans landing the crow gun will be trivial. Or she can use long range scourges if she'll be in danger of getting shot. Reconstruct is already annoying on convergence jacks and they're squishier than ours, a devastator seems practically unkillable with reconstruct and a few mechanics.
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Post by Levyathan on Mar 7, 2017 10:09:45 GMT
Hmm... She seems interesting, not sure if the feat is good or insane, i guess it requires testing Spell list seems nice, especially reconstruct and curse of shadows. Im glad she is something rather different to her old self and not say the transition between nemo iterations. Means I will actually consider her when choosing whether to play old witch.
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Post by HereComesTomorrow on Mar 7, 2017 10:21:25 GMT
I don't understand why people think that shes a good spell assassin. Scourge is expensive to cast even with a discount so you'll probably only get one shot at it.
A single spell never killed anyone.
Beast 09 charging through a Cursed unit however...
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Post by proxy on Mar 7, 2017 12:54:29 GMT
That is a tonne of boundless charges. I think she is going to make a decent support caster for the new faction, not so much Khador. I may be wrong and I look forward to our play tester trying her out.
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Post by zeffid on Mar 7, 2017 13:19:28 GMT
I think she has quite a potential. She can now have a chance at working against armour - curse of shadows. This same spell gives interesting angles. Then some defence from shooting. And on top of that she buffs battle group focus efficiency with roll before boost. I definitely like her. Also, notice reconstruct - it is a killer spell. Just imagine Behemoth having a second alfa at an enemy..and then possibly a third and a fourth...
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Post by wayniac on Mar 7, 2017 13:26:34 GMT
That is a tonne of boundless charges. I think she is going to make a decent support caster for the new faction, not so much Khador. I may be wrong and I look forward to our play tester trying her out. Keep in mind that OW2 (Khador) and OW3 (Grymkin) are two different casters with the same model. She will likely not have this same spell list and such for the Grymkin version.
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