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Post by Aegis on Jul 15, 2017 13:17:59 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised to see something Behemoth-like in CG.
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Post by W0lfBane on Jul 15, 2017 13:57:16 GMT
If all the Llaelese gun mages and resistance become partisan with the cricible guard and joined up forces. Good luck with that shit Khodoran and cygnar dogs.
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zich
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Post by zich on Jul 15, 2017 13:59:10 GMT
I don't think MoW care any more about Gunmages than they care about rain.
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Post by W0lfBane on Jul 15, 2017 14:39:46 GMT
I don't think MoW care any more about Gunmages than they care about rain. Yeah you're right they're so flimsy and bad even rain would hurt them.
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Haight
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Post by Haight on Jul 15, 2017 15:49:02 GMT
Llaelese Resistance is a really attractive idea, i've been waiting a long, long time for them to make it to the game. I'm pretty sure the "coming soon" on those is like 4-5 years old...
Lot of cool stuff in the Keynote, I'm imaginging cryx are pretty stoked right about now. Some of the stuff is interesting borderline zanily bizarre (amazon? really? loot crate is a good model for the true hobbyist / collector, smart move to get LE sales from the mega fans).
On the whole compared with last year i think they really nailed it.
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Post by gobber on Jul 15, 2017 17:50:11 GMT
Kinda I feel like this would probably end poorly for the crucible. The AKs are pretty much immune to whatever they can dish out. Well, they don't just bring gas bombs (that also mean smokewall), but they were the ones that invented blast powder... I expect superior guns and explosives from them... "They think their armors are impenetrable..." Crucible has tanks. Apply more tanks. Also, while the Golden Crucible is probably the Llaelese Resistance's first real ally in this fight, they probably shouldn't be seen as the same thing. The Crucible seems more analogous to the the conglomeration of British & American special services and De Gaulle's Free French, as opposed to the barely armed Maquis guerillas that made up the resistance. In any case, they need to release a unit of Llaelese partisans (not the rule) and snipers. Seriously, they need snipers (french-shooter is the word for sniper in french, spanish, and portuguese). Would also be interested in Khador-collaborator militia units, who would be the principal enemy of the resistance...
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Lanz
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Post by Lanz on Jul 15, 2017 23:00:15 GMT
This is the thing that caught my attention: That will be so awesome. Crucible Guard are badass.
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Haight
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Post by Haight on Jul 16, 2017 14:07:01 GMT
Well, they don't just bring gas bombs (that also mean smokewall), but they were the ones that invented blast powder... I expect superior guns and explosives from them... "They think their armors are impenetrable..." Crucible has tanks. Apply more tanks. Also, while the Golden Crucible is probably the Llaelese Resistance's first real ally in this fight, they probably shouldn't be seen as the same thing. The Crucible seems more analogous to the the conglomeration of British & American special services and De Gaulle's Free French, as opposed to the barely armed Maquis guerillas that made up the resistance. In any case, they need to release a unit of Llaelese partisans (not the rule) and snipers. Seriously, they need snipers (french-shooter is the word for sniper in french, spanish, and portuguese). Would also be interested in Khador-collaborator militia units, who would be the principal enemy of the resistance... I believe there's a rumor going around that in Llaelese resistance, every model with gun mage type gets Sniper. I have zero idea if its true or not, but that's the rumor making its way around the webatron. If true, it is both thematic, cool, and useful, which is a fairly difficult thing to pull off.
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Post by W0lfBane on Jul 16, 2017 16:26:08 GMT
Crucible has tanks. Apply more tanks. Also, while the Golden Crucible is probably the Llaelese Resistance's first real ally in this fight, they probably shouldn't be seen as the same thing. The Crucible seems more analogous to the the conglomeration of British & American special services and De Gaulle's Free French, as opposed to the barely armed Maquis guerillas that made up the resistance. In any case, they need to release a unit of Llaelese partisans (not the rule) and snipers. Seriously, they need snipers (french-shooter is the word for sniper in french, spanish, and portuguese). Would also be interested in Khador-collaborator militia units, who would be the principal enemy of the resistance... I believe there's a rumor going around that in Llaelese resistance, every model with gun mage type gets Sniper. I have zero idea if its true or not, but that's the rumor making its way around the webatron. If true, it is both thematic, cool, and useful, which is a fairly difficult thing to pull off. Amd they get to place a piece of rubble terrain with one solo hidden in it before the game begins. The Llaelese theme force sounds super legit actually.
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Post by gobber on Jul 16, 2017 21:39:15 GMT
Crucible has tanks. Apply more tanks. Also, while the Golden Crucible is probably the Llaelese Resistance's first real ally in this fight, they probably shouldn't be seen as the same thing. The Crucible seems more analogous to the the conglomeration of British & American special services and De Gaulle's Free French, as opposed to the barely armed Maquis guerillas that made up the resistance. In any case, they need to release a unit of Llaelese partisans (not the rule) and snipers. Seriously, they need snipers (french-shooter is the word for sniper in french, spanish, and portuguese). Would also be interested in Khador-collaborator militia units, who would be the principal enemy of the resistance... I believe there's a rumor going around that in Llaelese resistance, every model with gun mage type gets Sniper. I have zero idea if its true or not, but that's the rumor making its way around the webatron. If true, it is both thematic, cool, and useful, which is a fairly difficult thing to pull off. From the matter of pact facebook, referencing a dev talk.... "I don't remember all of the eligible casters for Llael theme force, but it was Ashlynn, Constance and a couple others. - It allows a single small based unit or solo to be taken as friendly faction from Protectorate or Cygnar. Specifically they mentioned taking a Choir on stuff like the Galleon. - Any gun mage models you take gain the Sniper rule - Place a 5 inch rubble AoE within 20 of your board edge, one of the solos can start in it." "Greylord & Doomreaver theme will give free attachments and apparition to Greylords. A Skorne theme on the horizon is beast centric. Some of the benefits include a free agonizer or krea for every 30 points of beasts and increased deployment by 2". Merc battle engines won't be able to be taking by other factions in theme. Skorne players won't be able to take the dracodile in their theme." And from Chain attack, sourcing a cid panel: "Falk has a magelock shotgun and will start testing with shot a model and have it do a spray off of the target. He also has an shot that does fire. He also has a shot that marks the target and when it takes magic damage if is at +2. The champion of the order of the wall will go into the Menoth edit a new theme- Faithful Masses, the zealot theme. He will have a leadership ability that gives retaliatory strike to other paladins. There are a couple new Man O War officers coming. One of the Man O Wars is on a large base. Skarre 3 feat: she can take a point of damage. She can cast a spell for each point of damage taken. Each spell can be cast once. Agrimony is a revenant and will play in Ghost Fleet. She has no attacks that break her incorporeal. Orion's Feat: friendly models making attacks against enemy models in his control area without a focus or fury get boosted attack rolls. When making attacks against models with focus or fury, he gains boosted damage. Orion has a spell that can place focus on enemy and friendly models. Gastonne 2: his gun is strong. If he has any souls on him he rolls an additional die on attack and damage and drops the lowest. If Gastonne has three souls, he can spend them to become ROF 4 with boosted attack and damage. Brawler will start testing at 16 points and his animus will be ornery and it will be a Northkin model. Wold wight- Pagani: I keep murdering everyone with it in play testing. He is effectively a lesser on a medium base (14 hp). 5 points. Fury 2. Stone shapers will get new star action that gives a Wolds +2 strength. Anamag has a spell that is non upkeep, cost 3?, target unit give +3 strength. Fury 7 caster. An ogrun can kill something and then she can cast it again. Primus Jalaam’s feat will begin testing as when an enemy model attacks a friendly faction model they roll one less attack die. Barnabus 2 has a spell that gives enemy models -2 on attack rolls. Cost 2. Non upkeep. Mercs and Minions will eventually be gone through and add on new factions like Grymkin and Crucible Guard to factions that can take them where appropriate. Gorman has partisan Crucible in internal playtest documents."
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on Jul 16, 2017 21:44:19 GMT
Man, PP Firetrucking Hates Mercs doesn't it?
They ONLY let the Choir work for Mercs. Freaking typical. Not the Book or anything!
And sniper? Seriously? Thats it? What a useless ability on the gunmages.
And enough with the freaking terrain!
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Post by gobber on Jul 16, 2017 21:58:13 GMT
Again from chain attack: "Upcoming theme forces include a Greylord/Doomreaver theme, a Minion beast and Solo theme (with benefits for the lessers), a Llaelese theme, and Skorne beast theme."
More detail from some random person at L&L seems super limited... Verendrye but no steelheads?: For every 20pts of units, get a solo or CA. Warcasters Llaelese Warcasters Constance MacBain
Llaelese units Precursor knight units Sam and the devil dogs
Llaelese solos Versh Corbeau Colbie Gobber tinker solos Shaw
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Post by Cryptix on Jul 17, 2017 3:47:51 GMT
Man, PP Firetrucking Hates Mercs doesn't it? They ONLY let the Choir work for Mercs. Freaking typical. Not the Book or anything! And sniper? Seriously? Thats it? What a useless ability on the gunmages. And enough with the freaking terrain! Um... "It allows a single small based unit or solo to be taken as friendly faction from Protectorate or Cygnar."
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Jul 17, 2017 4:42:59 GMT
Rowdy Dragon
1. Book counts as small based 2. Choir are amazing 3. Sniper is a really powerful ability. You might just be used to having Widowmakers, but a full Sniper unit isn't super common. If the player takes gun mages, they get 6 damage a turn on something at long range. Bringing Taryn along makes it even better.
4. That's a new type of theme terrain with a flavorful feature. Rubble is rough terrain AND cover, so it offers legit protection for the solo.
Edit: now that I think about it, the sniper rule could be a huge deal. If the Llael player takes 2 units of Thorn gun mages, a unit of Cygnar Gun Mages, and Taryn, then that's 19 points of auto damage. It bypasses armor, slaughters tough infantry. And Jacks won't be too happy either.
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Post by W0lfBane on Jul 17, 2017 11:37:22 GMT
I'm pretty sure rowdy's being sarcastic.
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