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Post by Cryptix on May 18, 2017 12:33:54 GMT
Someone made a diagram, but basically if the Carriage is contacting a model and then there's also a model 0.5" away AKA in its melee range it can make an impact attack against both of those, then if the model it was contacting dies, it will move and contact the model that was 0.5" away and make a second impact attack without stopping.
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Post by Growl on May 18, 2017 12:54:33 GMT
Ahhhh sneaksy! That's pretty cool. Abuses the rules though.
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Post by Cryptix on May 18, 2017 13:02:04 GMT
Someone made a thread about and Pagani specifically said it was ok.
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Post by Soul Samurai on May 18, 2017 13:12:20 GMT
ARGH! Replied instead of editing! I am totally failing at forums today!
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Post by Cryptix on May 18, 2017 13:27:00 GMT
Don't worry, I got you. I can get it back if that was a mistake.
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Post by Soul Samurai on May 18, 2017 13:38:43 GMT
Don't worry, I got you. I can get it back if that was a mistake. Thanks, just leave that post in Urcaen where it belongs.
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Post by Kriegsspiele on May 18, 2017 16:49:38 GMT
My ranking if it comes true like it is now:
1. Cyriss, Menoth (These are stupidly good!) 2. Cygnar, Retribution, Circle, Skorne (Still great!) 3. Ignore the rest... Oh, and ignore the CID. It's better for your health.
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Post by HereComesTomorrow on May 18, 2017 17:23:57 GMT
My ranking if it comes true like it is now: 1. Cyriss, Menoth (These are stupidly good!) 2. Cygnar, Retribution, Circle, Skorne (Still great!) 3. Ignore the rest... Oh, and ignore the CID. It's better for your health. If you ignore the CID then you can't complain when stuff turns out shit.
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Post by droopingpuppy on May 19, 2017 0:18:55 GMT
My ranking if it comes true like it is now: 1. Cyriss, Menoth (These are stupidly good!) 2. Cygnar, Retribution, Circle, Skorne (Still great!) 3. Ignore the rest... Oh, and ignore the CID. It's better for your health. If you ignore the CID then you can't complain when stuff turns out shit. Maybe it reads abandon PP? Well, it seems that I am right that Gun Carriage is mediocre. Even for a non-Khador player, it seems awkward. What is its purpose? POW 16 guns without boosted damage roll are too weak to crack armor. A boostable POW 15 causes about 5.5 average damage against ARM 20, while it causes about 3x2=6. Not to mention about Cygnaran Storm Strider's two boostable POW 15 guns, and possible damage buff by Firefly. And it is even more accurate and able to attack from more distance! For melee? POW 14 weapon seems too weak to crack armor. For anti infantry... well, don't you already have the mortars? You have Winter Guard Rifleman as well. If you are really want to do then you may even consider Doom Reaver Swordsmen(I know that it is not a sane idea, though, but at least they can crack armor and able to chop the enemy infantry). Good amount of damage box combined with high speed is a sure advantage over the Juggernauts, but do you really starve for such an expensive model just for the jamming purpose? I think that it needs at least two more weeks.
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Post by Armchair Warrior on May 19, 2017 2:20:44 GMT
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Post by smoothcriminal on May 19, 2017 13:19:25 GMT
If you ignore the CID then you can't complain when stuff turns out shit. Maybe it reads abandon PP? Well, it seems that I am right that Gun Carriage is mediocre. Even for a non-Khador player, it seems awkward. What is its purpose? POW 16 guns without boosted damage roll are too weak to crack armor. A boostable POW 15 causes about 5.5 average damage against ARM 20, while it causes about 3x2=6. Not to mention about Cygnaran Storm Strider's two boostable POW 15 guns, and possible damage buff by Firefly. And it is even more accurate and able to attack from more distance! For melee? POW 14 weapon seems too weak to crack armor. For anti infantry... well, don't you already have the mortars? You have Winter Guard Rifleman as well. If you are really want to do then you may even consider Doom Reaver Swordsmen(I know that it is not a sane idea, though, but at least they can crack armor and able to chop the enemy infantry). Good amount of damage box combined with high speed is a sure advantage over the Juggernauts, but do you really starve for such an expensive model just for the jamming purpose? I think that it needs at least two more weeks. Right, you're non-khadoran, so you miss the context. In short it's an output of a wg unit concentrated in one armored model (and therefore immune to a lot of wg counters) with all alternatives among jacks being worse in regards to shooting. And it counts for theme in the single theme where shooting is the focus.
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Post by Kriegsspiele on May 19, 2017 14:26:43 GMT
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on May 19, 2017 14:28:38 GMT
Mind quoting some stuff for the accountless?
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Post by HereComesTomorrow on May 19, 2017 16:08:32 GMT
Mind quoting some stuff for the accountless? The poster filed the GC under "Not good enough for competitive play". Honestly since the changes to the role of GC I've been keeping out of the discussion and looking at the Throne and AFG discussions and its making me long for the week of the Salt Wagon. Both of them are basically where they need be but apparently it's still not enough for a lot of people. I mean the Throne is ARM 20, 36 boxes, Spd 5 and flies (imagine if Khador got a flying Behemoth) and people are saying it has a hard time getting across the board. 12" threat isn't enough? It needs spell immunity? Drops to MAT 6 and gains Murderous? It seems like people won't stop until their BE are an OP mess. I also wish people would stop refering back to discussions on Facebook groups. If Facebook is such a wellspring of knowledge why aren't they posting their reports or thoughts on the CID? I remember Chain Attack I think it was doing a podcast on Grymkin and rendering opinions when they had a collective 3 games with them between 4 people. Like fair enough offer an opinion but at least have some basis in experience before spouting nonsense.
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Post by HereComesTomorrow on May 19, 2017 16:09:42 GMT
Mind quoting some stuff for the accountless? The poster filed the GC under "Not good enough for competitive play". Honestly since the changes to the role of GC I've been keeping out of the discussion and looking at the Throne and AFG discussions and its making me long for the week of the Salt Wagon. Both of them are basically where they need be but apparently it's still not enough for a lot of people. I mean the Throne is ARM 20, 36 boxes, Spd 5 and flies (imagine if Khador got a flying Behemoth) and people are saying it has a hard time getting across the board. 12" threat isn't enough? It needs spell immunity? Drops to MAT 6 and gains Murderous? It seems like people won't stop until their BE are an OP mess. I also wish people would stop refering back to discussions on Facebook groups. If Facebook is such a wellspring of knowledge why aren't they posting their reports or thoughts on the CID? I remember Chain Attack I think it was doing a podcast on Grymkin and rendering opinions when they had a collective 3 games with them between 4 people. Like fair enough offer an opinion but at least have some basis in experience before spouting nonsense.
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