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Post by Soul Samurai on Oct 21, 2021 4:04:23 GMT
S3 gains Irregulars MOW so will always be able to bring MOW so she's not locked into one theme amymore. Strak2 gets +5 wjp.
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Post by hocestbellum on Oct 21, 2021 8:37:56 GMT
That Clamjack change is pretty nuts; being able to stroll up into a zone and blast away with impunity is really strong, especially coupled with the changes to Blast Immunity
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Post by Havock on Oct 21, 2021 9:54:22 GMT
S3 gains Irregulars MOW so will always be able to bring MOW so she's not locked into one theme amymore. Strak2 gets +5 wjp. And that's pretty great because it allows for a more combined arms Jaws list, with the benefit of getting Pathfinder on all the jacks.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Oct 21, 2021 10:15:29 GMT
That Clamjack change is pretty nuts; being able to stroll up into a zone and blast away with impunity is really strong, especially coupled with the changes to Blast Immunity Rain of Death without opening up sounds very strong (I honestly half-expect it to not be included in the change). It will be nice to be able to head-butt without opening up again, mk2 style. Iirc you can charge and head-butt in Mk3, right? So charge in, bulldoze, ROD, knockdown, boost damage rolls, all while staying closed?
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Post by hocestbellum on Oct 21, 2021 11:39:28 GMT
S3 gains Irregulars MOW so will always be able to bring MOW so she's not locked into one theme amymore. Strak2 gets +5 wjp. And that's pretty great because it allows for a more combined arms Jaws list, with the benefit of getting Pathfinder on all the jacks. Oh, that's pretty nice. I was leaning towards WGK myself for the more self-contained shooting and Caster protection, but JotW has a lot of good options. EDIT: Speculation, but Sorscha2 getting Irregular Winter Guard would also be very interesting. Not enough to fix her on its own, but I'm in favour of anything that makes combined armies a bit better
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Post by Havock on Oct 21, 2021 14:07:57 GMT
S2 just needs to get Freezing Grip back and go from there.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Oct 21, 2021 14:42:26 GMT
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Post by The Snark Knight on Oct 21, 2021 16:45:21 GMT
Harkevich and Great Bears are conspicuously absent. Everything else looks pretty exciting. 12 point Kodiaks, changes to the Devastator, and the Iron Fang Kovnik picking up a cool +2 ARM and Leadership Unyielding, Prowl for Greylords on the Koldun Lord, 2 point Manhunters and War Dogs, the Demolisher looks BONKERS... A lot of good news. I'm not feeling great about my Irusk 2 Kayazy list with all the changes to blast resistance but there's plenty of good stuff to look over.
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Post by michael on Oct 21, 2021 16:49:46 GMT
Harkevich and B2 are still pretty…underwhelming. :-P
Kayazy Assassins just got nuts!
My 500-point MoW Unbound list just got like 50 points cheaper! Holy cow!
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Post by michael on Oct 21, 2021 16:52:58 GMT
That Clamjack change is pretty nuts; being able to stroll up into a zone and blast away with impunity is really strong, especially coupled with the changes to Blast Immunity Rain of Death without opening up sounds very strong (I honestly half-expect it to not be included in the change). It will be nice to be able to head-butt without opening up again, mk2 style. Iirc you can charge and head-butt in Mk3, right? So charge in, bulldoze, ROD, knockdown, boost damage rolls, all while staying closed? Headbutt is a power attack, so you can’t charge and do it.
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Post by Havock on Oct 21, 2021 16:57:19 GMT
You could already head butt, slam and trample without opening up.
Now also ranged attacks and boom-boom.
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Post by michael on Oct 21, 2021 17:03:23 GMT
Let me say, of course: this update is overall an INCREDIBLY positive change! I am really excited to see what else Faye has in store in the future!
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Post by hocestbellum on Oct 21, 2021 17:36:07 GMT
I am... somewhat unimpressed. I think I expected more than a low-effort points-slash across the board; Khador, for example, only have 3 units that didn't drop in price or get buffed. At that point why not just raise the cost of those 3 rather than lower the cost of two dozen? (I suspect the answer is 'now you need to buy more models for your lists')
Still, Assault Kommandos do feel better costed now
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Post by Soul Samurai on Oct 21, 2021 17:44:23 GMT
I like the Decimator buff. Seems Karchev can get Prowl now.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Oct 21, 2021 18:19:09 GMT
I am... somewhat unimpressed. I think I expected more than a low-effort points-slash across the board They announced from the beginning that it was mostly going to be small points cost tweaks. I think the issue is that they gave away a lot of the bigger changes in the spoilers, so going through the changes now it's mostly stuff we've already seen or just minor points drops.
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