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Post by malnorma on Apr 21, 2017 22:15:46 GMT
I think the point is that Saeryn can handle one thing and Rhyas can handle another that's NOT 12" away (like a flag or rectangle zone). In every scenario there are positions where both twins can score on different objects and still be within cmd. Lanz Apparently caster units get a pass on that (they said it'll be clarified in the next update). |
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Post by piedpiperwtf on Apr 21, 2017 23:01:01 GMT
The twins list, seen earlier in this thread, that I played last night did really well into PitII and had it not been for my own mistakes throughout the game I would have taken the win easily.....I loathe playing into Harbinger and I hate punch monks....Harbinger makes me cagey and punch monks just need to die.
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Post by ComboSmiteNick on Apr 21, 2017 23:53:45 GMT
They can double score on every scenario because warlocks can score any of the scenario elements and every one has at least 2 thing within 8-10" of each other. Don't the new unit scoring rules necessitate that the whole unit is on one objective? They don't control as a unit. They control individually as warlocks. |
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Post by ComboSmiteNick on Apr 21, 2017 23:56:27 GMT
I think the point is that Saeryn can handle one thing and Rhyas can handle another that's NOT 12" away (like a flag or rectangle zone). In every scenario there are positions where both twins can score on different objects and still be within cmd. Lanz Apparently caster units get a pass on that (they said it'll be clarified in the next update). This. |
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Post by princeraven on Apr 22, 2017 4:20:11 GMT
They can double score on every scenario because warlocks can score any of the scenario elements and every one has at least 2 thing within 8-10" of each other. They cannot in Recon because of this rule on page 10: "If a warcaster/warlock model B2B with a flag is a member of a warcaster/warlock unit, to control the flag all models in the unit must also be within 4˝ of the flag." |
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Post by whydak on Apr 22, 2017 9:37:18 GMT
(...) So after playtesting with the Typhon, Azrael, Proteus, Carnivean 2x Hellmouth build I was finding that I still felt the loss of sweet, sweet free points generated by playing in theme. So I decided to see what I could come up with in Oracles. (...) Any chance on some write up after test? I was playing Thags for a long time and after Oracles dropped i switched to this: Legion Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Oracles of Annihilation (Thagrosh 1) Thagrosh, Prophet of Everblight [+28] - Carnivean [19] - Carnivean [19] - Naga Nightlurker [8] - Seraph [14] - Typhon [24] Blighted Nyss Shepherd [1] Blighted Nyss Shepherd [1] Spell Martyr [1] Spell Martyr [1] The Forsaken [0(4)] The Forsaken [0(4)] Blighted Nyss Hex Hunters (max) [15] - Bayal, Hound of Everblight [0(6)] I really like Hex hunters in this list. I would like to add BFS but didn't found nice way to put them in and I don't have model yet. Another thing to decide is 3 vs 4 combat heavies choice. Currently I'm playing mostly Fyanna2/Vayl2 as a break from constantly playing Thags and I like but SR2017 can give Thagrosh another spin. Question is how Throne would look after CID. Tanky BE could find nice spot in Thagrosh brick  |
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Post by ComboSmiteNick on Apr 22, 2017 15:49:47 GMT
They can double score on every scenario because warlocks can score any of the scenario elements and every one has at least 2 thing within 8-10" of each other. They cannot in Recon because of this rule on page 10: "If a warcaster/warlock model B2B with a flag is a member of a warcaster/warlock unit, to control the flag all models in the unit must also be within 4˝ of the flag." True. Nice catch. |
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Post by Whiskie on Apr 22, 2017 16:07:19 GMT
(...) So after playtesting with the Typhon, Azrael, Proteus, Carnivean 2x Hellmouth build I was finding that I still felt the loss of sweet, sweet free points generated by playing in theme. So I decided to see what I could come up with in Oracles. (...) Any chance on some write up after test? Yeah I can definitely do a write up after testing. Thing is I'm putting SR2017 on hold because I have a con in less than two weeks and I want to spend practice time on SR2016 scenarios until after that's over.  For what it's worth though I like your version of Thags1. It's less skewy in exchange for being more balanced and having more tools. I like that you have a Naga and can see the benefits of a Seraph. There was an Aussie player who took 2nd place in the Cancon masters with a similar list to yours. For reference it was: Thagrosh1 - Typhon - Proteus - Carnivean - Seraph 2x Hellmouth 2x Deathstalker Forsaken 2x Shepherd Spell Martyr Of course this was pre-Oracles so the list had its differences but the general goal is the same. Hex Hunters perform a roughly similar role as Hellmouths in the sense that they jam and interfere and the Naga takes up the points that went into Deathstalkers. |
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Post by piedpiperwtf on Apr 24, 2017 1:12:29 GMT
So the new fuel cache objective..... Doesn't it just scream Kallus 2?
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Post by ComboSmiteNick on Apr 24, 2017 4:18:47 GMT
So the new fuel cache objective..... Doesn't it just scream Kallus 2? It definitely screams Ravagore. |
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Post by piedpiperwtf on Apr 24, 2017 14:58:43 GMT
So the new fuel cache objective..... Doesn't it just scream Kallus 2? It definitely screams Ravagore. how about BlightBringers 5" AOE a teraph with counter blast up? |
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Post by piedpiperwtf on Apr 24, 2017 15:04:40 GMT
Also absylonia1 her 4" AOE stays in play for one round.
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Post by princeraven on Apr 24, 2017 15:15:44 GMT
Sadly spells aren't weapons and won't gain the benefit from Fuel Cache.
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Post by piedpiperwtf on Apr 24, 2017 15:50:55 GMT
Sadly spells aren't weapons and won't gain the benefit from Fuel Cache. Touche |
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Post by ziggyqubert on Apr 24, 2017 16:54:37 GMT
NM, someone already posted
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