princeraven
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Post by princeraven on May 11, 2017 1:29:20 GMT
Also the feat does not allow Hellmouth Tentacles to Power Attack: Slam as Tentacles cannot perform Power Attacks.
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Post by piedpiperwtf on May 11, 2017 17:20:18 GMT
Also the feat does not allow Hellmouth Tentacles to Power Attack: Slam as Tentacles cannot perform Power Attacks. Thanx was looking for a lil clarification on this as the feat states models can charge or slam power attack models on fire for free....also any reason we wouldn't want to berserk our way through the opposition with lustful Warmongers threatening 13" on feat turn?
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Post by ForEver_Blight on May 11, 2017 17:57:34 GMT
Berserk and high pow seems a waste. You want to trigger berserk by killing what? Likely light infantry. If it was heavy infantry there's far fewer options to berserk to and thus you're not getting a ton out of it.
I still stand by my use of warspears + prey + dragon breath aura + battle lust.
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Post by copperflame on May 11, 2017 20:29:18 GMT
I am very intrigued with the prospect of using Blightbringer (right now, I only have it in a Twins list because I want to use it somewhere).
Do you guys think, if the Steam Roller 2017 Objectives stay the same, looking towards ranged components like Brightbringer/Ravagores/Teraphs for enabling Overrun and feat synergy would be the way to go? Or will the focus on attrition keep K2 less effective option?
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princeraven
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Post by princeraven on May 12, 2017 2:29:17 GMT
They removed Fuel Cache's ability to grant Continuous Fire in the last week of testing and I don't think it will make a comeback.
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newsun
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Post by newsun on May 12, 2017 3:17:29 GMT
Not exactly sure how to flesh this out, however, these are the pieces I think he wants... conflictchamber.com/#ba1bg-g_aYaYfgLegion Army - 53 / 75 points !!! Your army must contain at least 98 total points. (Kallus 2) Kallus, Devastation of Everblight [+28] - Azrael [21] Blighted Nyss Raptors (max) [18] Blighted Nyss Raptors (max) [18] Croak Raiders (max) [17]
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Post by zerohour on May 12, 2017 8:57:59 GMT
Not exactly sure how to flesh this out, however, these are the pieces I think he wants... conflictchamber.com/#ba1bg-g_aYaYfgLegion Army - 53 / 75 points !!! Your army must contain at least 98 total points. (Kallus 2) Kallus, Devastation of Everblight [+28] - Azrael [21] Blighted Nyss Raptors (max) [18] Blighted Nyss Raptors (max) [18] Croak Raiders (max) [17] I actually think a minimum unite of croaks is plenty. You essentially get a 10 point unit of hunters marks with bonus oil option. 7 points for 4 more guys doesn't seem worth to me.
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Post by ForEver_Blight on May 12, 2017 12:16:39 GMT
I'm really tempted to but Croaks for him. But I'm trying double raek at the moment.
If I did buy a box (which is stupid expensive) I'd run them in a weird/obnoxious all fire gunline; Archangel, Ravagore, Angelius, Seraph, etc...
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Post by Cheesebeard on May 12, 2017 15:26:58 GMT
I'm more of a mind to use Raeks for fire delivery than Croaks (for feat purposes).
Raeks can offer a lot to assassination threat with Overrun, and while their threat is lower to get fire out, Kallus' lack of any way to deliver the Croaks makes them a lot more challenging to get the job done.
My Kallus2 lists also focus more on combined arms, look less at triggering fire outside of feat, and are intended to play into lists that have answers to ranged and magic aggression. It's an exercise in building a generalist list pairing that doesn't telegraph what I plan to drop into any given matchup. It's still in the works, but that's where I'm going with it.
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Post by piedpiperwtf on May 12, 2017 20:05:55 GMT
I'm more of a mind to use Raeks for fire delivery than Croaks (for feat purposes). Raeks can offer a lot to assassination threat with Overrun, and while their threat is lower to get fire out, Kallus' lack of any way to deliver the Croaks makes them a lot more challenging to get the job done. My Kallus2 lists also focus more on combined arms, look less at triggering fire outside of feat, and are intended to play into lists that have answers to ranged and magic aggression. It's an exercise in building a generalist list pairing that doesn't telegraph what I plan to drop into any given matchup. It's still in the works, but that's where I'm going with it. this is a combined arms list I think can combine all aspects of the feat and spell list. War Room Army Legion of Everblight - k2 Theme: No Theme Selected 75 / 75 Army Kallus, Devastation of Everblight - WB: +28 - Succubus - PC: 4 - Azrael - PC: 21 (Battlegroup Points Used: 21) - Proteus - PC: 19 (Battlegroup Points Used: 7) - Seraph - PC: 14 The Forsaken - PC: 4 Warmonger War Chief - PC: 6 Blighted Ogrun Warmongers - Leader & 4 Grunts: 15 Blighted Ogrun Warspears - Leader & 4 Grunts: 15 - Warspear Chieftain - PC: 5 --- GENERATED : 05/12/2017 15:05:04 BUILD ID : 2039.17-03-16
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newsun
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Post by newsun on May 13, 2017 10:07:30 GMT
I also was toying with the idea of using Lust for full fury forsaken boost hits/buy attacks or w/e unit that's able to be pow 11+ weapon masters for a turn. I think Fyanna is quite scary for a free solo against a beast with Lust up. This might struggle into some heavy jack bricks. AA is pretty self sufficient and K2 can always cut for 1-2 fury being able to heal on activation. I think this has some interesting assassination options. Will be looking for opportune times to extend threat and save on fury a bit with feat.
Something like this: K2 - RoW AA 2x Raek max Raptors BlightBlades Raiders Fyanna 2x Forsaken Grot Assassin 2x Martyr
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Post by fatherlucant on May 17, 2017 18:12:44 GMT
Kallus shines with infantry Ravens with grotesque or even CoD
War Room Army
Legion of Everblight - Kallus 2
Theme: Children of the Dragon 2 / 2 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Kallus, Wrath of Everblight - WB: +30 - Nephilim Protector - PC: 10 (Battlegroup Points Used: 10) - Nephilim Protector - PC: 10 (Battlegroup Points Used: 10) - Nephilim Protector - PC: 10 (Battlegroup Points Used: 10) - Nephilim Bolt Thrower - PC: 11 - Nephilim Bolt Thrower - PC: 11
Incubus - 5 Incubi: 6 Blighted Nyss Warlord - PC: 5 Blighted Nyss Shepherd - PC: 1 Blighted Nyss Shepherd - PC: 1 Blighted Nyss Shepherd - PC: 1 Spell Martyr - PC: 1 Spell Martyr - PC: 1
Blighted Nyss Swordsmen - Leader & 9 Grunts: 15 - Blighted Nyss Swordsmen Abbot & Champion - Abbot & Champion: 0 Blighted Nyss Swordsmen - Leader & 9 Grunts: 15 - Blighted Nyss Swordsmen Abbot & Champion - Abbot & Champion: 0 Spawning Vessel - Vessel & 6 Grunts: 7
THEME: Children of the Dragon ---
GENERATED : 05/16/2017 20:45:05 BUILD ID : 2039.17-03-16
War Room Army
Legion of Everblight - Kallus 2 alt
Theme: Children of the Dragon 2 / 2 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Kallus, Devastation of Everblight - WB: +28 - Nephilim Soldier - PC: 9 (Battlegroup Points Used: 9) - Nephilim Soldier - PC: 9 (Battlegroup Points Used: 9) - Nephilim Soldier - PC: 9 (Battlegroup Points Used: 9) - Nephilim Soldier - PC: 9 (Battlegroup Points Used: 1) - Shredder - PC: 4 - Shredder - PC: 4 - Shredder - PC: 4 - Shredder - PC: 4
Blighted Nyss Warlord - PC: 5 Blighted Nyss Warlord - PC: 5 Blighted Nyss Shepherd - PC: 1 Blighted Nyss Shepherd - PC: 1
Blighted Nyss Swordsmen - Leader & 9 Grunts: 15 - Blighted Nyss Swordsmen Abbot & Champion - Abbot & Champion: 0 Blighted Nyss Swordsmen - Leader & 9 Grunts: 15 - Blighted Nyss Swordsmen Abbot & Champion - Abbot & Champion: 0 Blackfrost Shard - Sevryn, Rhylyss & Vysarr: 9
THEME: Children of the Dragon ---
GENERATED : 05/17/2017 13:11:04 BUILD ID : 2039.17-03-16
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Post by piedpiperwtf on May 23, 2017 17:19:53 GMT
Double posted
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Post by piedpiperwtf on May 23, 2017 17:38:01 GMT
I've been toying with a BlightBringer Kallus list using the idea that he only needs the BB to run efficiently with cutting and regeneration. The list focus on battlusting the field in waves. Might tweak once I get more play time tell me your thoughts.
War Room Army
Legion of Everblight - K2 BB n Boxes
Theme: No Theme Selected 75 / 75 Army
Kallus, Devastation of Everblight - WB: +28 - Succubus - PC: 4 - Blightbringer - PC: 38 (Battlegroup Points Used: 28)
Warmonger War Chief - PC: 6 Spell Martyr - PC: 1 Strider Deathstalker - PC: 4 Blighted Nyss Shepherd - PC: 1 Blighted Nyss Shepherd - PC: 1
Blighted Nyss Raptors - Leader & 4 Grunts: 18 Blighted Ogrun Warmongers - Leader & 2 Grunts: 9 Blighted Ogrun Warmongers - Leader & 2 Grunts: 9 Hellmouth - Hellmouth & 3 Tentacles: 6 Hellmouth - Hellmouth & 3 Tentacles: 6
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War Room Army
Legion of Everblight - K2 BB n Boxes
Theme: No Theme Selected 75 / 75 Army
Kallus, Devastation of Everblight - WB: +28 - Succubus - PC: 4 - Blightbringer - PC: 38 (Battlegroup Points Used: 28)
Warmonger War Chief - PC: 6 Grotesque Assassin - PC: 4 Blighted Nyss Shepherd - PC: 1 Spell Martyr - PC: 1 Spell Martyr - PC: 1
Blighted Nyss Raptors - Leader & 4 Grunts: 18 Blighted Ogrun Warmongers - Leader & 2 Grunts: 9 Blighted Ogrun Warmongers - Leader & 2 Grunts: 9 Grotesque Raiders - Leader & 9 Grunts: 12
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GENERATED : 05/23/2017 12:37:14 BUILD ID : 2039.17-03-16
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Post by rhonlore on May 23, 2017 18:15:24 GMT
I've been thinking about playing a Kallus1 list close to your K2 lists, except featuring min warspear units over Warmongers.
These lists appeal to me and could be strong.
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