gordo
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Post by gordo on Apr 6, 2018 18:46:07 GMT
So looking at zero casters, if we accept what they said already, they are NOT meant to be balanced with existing options. They are meant to tilting games, which from a story perspective makes sense given their legendary status. They have little to no opportunity cost to include either, so basically they are just straight power-ups for the factions that get them. This is especially irksome because they are taking factions that clearly already get tons of attention (maybe not Protectorate) and giving them a clear power increase while leaving everyone else alone. If you disagree with this premise, go argue it in the other thread.
My goal here is "what if they made them for every faction?" Not just which caster, but what iconic ability would they take from that caster and then make broadly available to the entire faction? And clearly they are picking them based on fluff as well, not just "who is most iconic/popular for their faction", otherwise we would have had Asphyxious0, Nemo0, etc
I'd love to say Thagrosh for Legion, by the faction really didn't exist before him, so we'd have to pick someone else. Given that, I'd say Vayl0. She was one of the first to join Everblight and not much is said about her initial "introductory" period. I'd say for iconic ability, I'd copy Sev0 a bit and give her Fury 5 and Incite. Possibly Refuge.
For Skorne, I'd do Makeda0, from the days when she was working with Vinter (or whatever his name was). Probably give her Stay Death (the one that costs fury) and Carnage, make her Fury 4. She'd need to play up front and risky but obviously could tilt some stuff with those.
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Post by leotherat on Apr 6, 2018 19:15:04 GMT
I'd say Gorton Grundback start him with 5 focus..... Oh wait.
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Post by tesoe on Apr 6, 2018 19:27:01 GMT
It would be kinda funny if the brought back the D20 version of Father Lucant for Convergence.
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Hashmal
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Post by Hashmal on Apr 6, 2018 20:33:14 GMT
I firmly believe that every faction will get a lynchpin tilting Solo in due time. These are being released now to celebrate an anniversary. Future releases do not need to, and may not, adhere to this rationale.
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granor
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Post by granor on Apr 6, 2018 21:53:48 GMT
My goal here is "what if they made them for every faction?" I just found this optimism very funny.
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gordo
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Post by gordo on Apr 6, 2018 22:55:59 GMT
My goal here is "what if they made them for every faction?" I just found this optimism very funny. I find your lack of faith oddly comforting.
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Post by thewaspinator on Apr 6, 2018 23:50:39 GMT
Hopefully, the Hordes ones won't have to wait the full three years. And hopefully Grymkin won't have to wait like 14.
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boozy
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Post by boozy on Apr 7, 2018 1:44:07 GMT
Makeda was already an Archdomina when she fought Vinter, so I doubt she'll be the choice.
Hexy0 perhaps, or Morghoul0. Both were base Skorne warlocks, and there's room for wiggle between when the former became a Lord Tyrant, and the latter a Master Tormentor. Outside the box, a Zaal, Xerxis, or Mordikaar zero iteration would be more interesting. Rasheth on his own feet would be hilarious.
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Post by elshinare on Apr 7, 2018 5:14:55 GMT
So, they said not every faction will be getting one, but in due time a few other's will (this was on their live feed on Wednesday). I would expect that it will be the original battlebox casters for hordes when hordes gets theirs. And I doubt CoC or Grymkin will be getting one
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Post by Charistoph on Apr 7, 2018 6:30:21 GMT
So, they said not every faction will be getting one, but in due time a few other's will (this was on their live feed on Wednesday). I would expect that it will be the original battlebox casters for hordes when hordes gets theirs. And I doubt CoC or Grymkin will be getting one And odds are Mercenaries, Minions, and Crucible Guard will also be in that category. I wouldn't bet that the original battlebox warlocks will be there, not all the battlebox 'Casters are currently available, specifically Stryker and Kreoss (though, they may come later). While it might be interesting to see Morghul as a solo, I honestly rather see the percocious Hexeris in that position, honestly.
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Post by gobber on Apr 7, 2018 6:45:56 GMT
I hazard minions are going to wait a while if ever, so might as well wishlist...
Carver0, Bringer of Destruction Fury4 Spells: Batten down the Hatches Quagmire or Rift No sleeping on the job [farrow warrior] Power swell (which would be self only) or something to mimic his later feat and make him an impressive beatstickwhen he gets there. At the five-to-six-but-usually-free point range, he'd be a great primalbot option for gator warlocks in will work for food, while bringing something extra for thornfall. Helga in particular would drool here as she finally gets steady (she also provides significant encouragement to try a war hog on carver0 (batten+defenders = def12 arm24) rather than just using him as a primalbot)
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faelin
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Post by faelin on Apr 7, 2018 7:16:38 GMT
I doubt the CoC would ever get one, but they should. I think it would be really cool to see some of our staple casters before they were transferred to mechanical bodies. It's a fun way to explore the transference fluff a little
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Post by gobber on Apr 7, 2018 7:34:04 GMT
I doubt the CoC would ever get one, but they should. I think it would be really cool to see some of our staple casters before they were transferred to mechanical bodies. It's a fun way to explore the transference fluff a little Oooh in addition to the obvious Lucant0 I would love to see them delve into this by doing Lucidia(0?). I have no idea how idea how the numbering system handles name changes, but depicting Mortenebra's time in Convergence would be awesome.
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Post by albertairish on Apr 7, 2018 12:56:30 GMT
Madrak0 with Protective Aura and Jackhammer before Rathrok started corrupting him.
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Post by finnigan2004 on Apr 7, 2018 13:13:30 GMT
Where do we find out about "zero casters"?
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