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Post by greenbay924 on Feb 7, 2018 17:56:27 GMT
Calling it now, no way those Tankers (especially the supression tanker) goes live as it is. Pow 16, spray 10, boosted attack rolls against warriors...x2? For 6 points? And that much survivability? We'd never see infantry again. It's a special attack, so believe it's only a single spray, not 2
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Post by oncomingstorm on Feb 7, 2018 17:57:54 GMT
Calling it now, no way those Tankers (especially the supression tanker) goes live as it is. Pow 16, spray 10, boosted attack rolls against warriors...x2? For 6 points? And that much survivability? We'd never see infantry again. It's a special attack, so believe it's only a single spray, not 2 Hmm. Missed that. Still, seems insane. Especially since it has an uncharacteristically high RAT for Khador.
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Post by hocestbellum on Feb 7, 2018 17:59:30 GMT
Okay, quick rundown:
Entire Berzerker chassis became MAT 6, all got one point cheaper, and the Rager gained 1 RAT
Juggernaut and Marauder had a 1 point increase
Decimator had a 1 point decrease
Spriggan had a 2 point decrease
Beast-09 had a 3 point decrease
Victor is now 36 points, Conquest is 35
Bombadiers became RNG12
Malakov2's feat now affects all friendly faction models, not just warjacks
New stuff:
Kommandant Sorscha Kratikoff – Man-O-War Force Book 10 FONT Khador Man-O-War Warcaster SORSCHA 3 SPD STR MAT RAT DEF ARM CMD FOC 4 9 7 6 12 18 9 6 FA: C Warjack Points: +28 Base Size: Medium Base Damage: 17
Feat: Dead of Winter
Place d3+3 3˝ AOE cloud effects anywhere completely in Sorscha’s control range. These AOEs remain in play for one round. A model entering or ending its activation in a Dead of Winter AOEs suffers 1 point of cold damage XICONX.
SORSCHA 3 Immunity: Cold Field Marshal [Flank Man-O-War] - Warjacks in this model’s battlegroup gain Flank [Man-O-War]. (When a model with Flank [Man-O-War] makes a melee attack against an enemy model in the melee range of a friendly Man-O-War, the model with Flank gains +2 to attack rolls and gains an additional damage die.) Repairable - This model can be targeted with Repair special actions as if it were a construct model. Storm’s Embrace - While in this model’s command range, friendly Faction model’s gain concealment.
WEAPONS [SORSCHA 3] Cannon [1x] (None) gun icon RNG: 12 ROF: 1 AOE: 3 POW: 13 Arcing Fire - When attacking with this weapon, this model can ignore intervening models except those within 1˝ of the target. Frostfang [1x] (None) sword icon RNG: 2 POW: 7 P+S: 16 Damage Type: Magical Critical Smite - On a critical hit, the model hit can be slammed d6˝ directly away from this model. If the model hit has a larger base than the attacking model, it is moved only half the distance rolled. The POW of collateral damage is equal to the STR of this model. Freeze - A model hit by this weapon becomes stationary for one round unless it has Immunity: Cold XICONX.
SPELLS Cost RNG AOE POW DUR OFF Iron Flesh 2 6 – – UP No Target friendly Faction warrior model/unit gains +2 ARM and does not suffer blast damage. Models are not affected while out of formation. Stoke the Fires 2 6 – – RND No Target friendly Faction warjack gains +2 SPD and and Counter Charge. Stoke the Fires lasts for one round. (When an enemy model advances and ends its movement within 6˝ of a model with Counter Charge and in its LOS, the model with Countercharge can immediately charge it. A model can use Countercharge only once per round and while not engaged.) Wind Rush 2 Self – – – No The spellcaster can immediately make a full advance and gains +2 DEF for one round. Wind Rush can be cast only once per activation. Winter’s Wrath 4 8 4 14 * Yes Winter’s Wrath causes cold damage XICONX. Models hit becomes stationary for one round unless they have Immunity: Cold XICONX.
Tactical Tip Winter’s Wrath — This means every model in the AOE without Immunity: Cold becomes stationary, friendly and enemy alike.
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Post by hocestbellum on Feb 7, 2018 18:00:28 GMT
Man-O-War Bombardier Officer – Man-O-War Force Book 10 FONT Khador Command Attachment OFFICER SPD STR MAT RAT DEF ARM CMD 4 9 8 6 10 16 9 FA: 3 Point Cost: 5 Base Size: Medium Base Damage: 8
Attachment [Man-O-War Bombardier] - This attachment can be added to a Man-O-War Bombardier unit. OFFICER Combined Ranged Attack Officer Granted: Clear Cut - While this model is in formation, when advancing as part of a full advance, models in its unit that are in formation gain Pathfinder XICONX. Repairable - This model can be targeted with Repair special actions as if it were a construct model. Support Fire - This model can use Support Fire once per game at any time during its unit’s activation. This activation, models in its unit gain Dual Shot (If a model with Dual Shot uses its Normal Movement to aim, it can make one additional ranged attack this activation.) Tactics: Quick Work - Models in this unit gain Quick Work. (When a model with Quick Work destroys one or more enemy models with a melee attack during its Combat Action, immediately after the attack is resolved the model with Quick Work can make one basic ranged attack.)
WEAPONS [OFFICER] Grenade Cannon [1x] (None) gun icon RNG: 12 ROF: 1 AOE: 3 POW: 14 Arcing Fire - When attacking with this weapon, this model can ignore intervening models except those within 1˝ of the target. Chain Blade [1x] (None) sword icon RNG: 1 POW: 4 P+S: 13 Critical Shred - On a critical hit with this weapon during this model’s Combat Action, after the attack is resolved this model can make one additional attack with this weapon against the model hit.
Tactical Tip Critical Shred — A model can make additional attacks only during its Combat Action. Raking Fire Heavy Bombardment
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Post by hocestbellum on Feb 7, 2018 18:01:30 GMT
Sergeant Dragos Dragadovich – Man-O-War Force Book Man- 10 FONT O-War Khador Man-O-War Command Attachment DRAGADOVICH 1 SPD STR MAT RAT DEF ARM CMD 4 9 8 5 10 16 8 FA: C Point Cost: 6 Base Size: Medium Base Damage: 8 Attachment [Man-O-War Demolition Corps] - This attachment can be added to a Man-O-War Demolition Corps unit.
DRAGADOVICH 1 Officer Tough Granted: Vengeance - While this model is in formation, models in its unit gain Vengeance. (During your Maintenance Phase, if one or more models in a unit with Vengeance were damaged by enemy attacks during the last round, each model in the unit can advance 3˝ and make one basic melee attack.) Repairable - This model can be targeted with Repair special actions as if it were a construct model. Tactics: Defensive Line - Models in this unit gain Defensive Line . (While this model is B2B with one or more models in its unit, a model with Defensive Line gains +2 DEF against melee attacks and cannot become knocked down.) Team Effort - This model can use Team Effort once per game at any time during its unit’s activation. This activation, models in this unit gain +2 to attack and damage rolls when making a melee attack targeting an enemy model in melee range of another model in this unit.
WEAPONS [DRAGADOVICH 1] Ice Maul [2x] (None) sword icon RNG: 2 POW: 7 P+S: 16 Critical Freeze - On a critical hit, the model hit becomes stationary for one round unless it has Immunity: Cold XICONX.
Tactical Tip Granted: Vengeance — Models move after continuous effects have been resolved during your Maintenance Phase.
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Post by hocestbellum on Feb 7, 2018 18:02:21 GMT
Kommandant Atanas Arconovich & Standard – Man-O-War 10 FONT Force Book Khador Man-O-War Unit ARCONOVICH 1 SPD STR MAT RAT DEF ARM CMD 4 9 8 6 10 16 10 STANDARD BEARER SPD STR MAT RAT DEF ARM CMD 4 9 7 5 10 16 7 FA: C Point Cost: Arconovich & Standard Bearer: 7 Base Size: Medium Base Damage: 8 each
ARCONOVICH 1 Officer Battle Plan - This model can use one of the following plans at any time during its activation. A friendly Faction model/unit can be affected by only one plan each turn. •Heroic Call - RNG 5. Target friendly MAN-O-War model/unit. If the model/unit is in range, it gains Tough XICONX. Models are not affected while out of formation. Heroic Call lasts for one round. •Relentless Tide - RNG 5. Target friendly Man-O-War model/unit. If the model/unit is in range, it gains Relentless Charge for one turn. (While advancing as part of a charge, a model with Relentless Charge gains Pathfinder XICONX.) •Unstoppable Fury - RNG 5. Target friendly Man-O-War model/unit. If the model/unit is in range, it gains Retaliatory Strike. Unstoppable Fury lasts for one round. (If a model with Retaliatory Strike is hit by a melee attack made by an enemy model during your opponent’s turn, after that attack is resolved the model with Retaliatory Strike can immediately make one basic melee attack against that model. A model can make one Retaliatory Strike per turn.) Repairable - This model can be targeted with Repair special actions as if it were a construct model. Veteran Leader [Man-O-War] - While in this model’s command range, other friendly Man-O-War models gain +1 to attack rolls.
WEAPONS [ARCONOVICH 1] Hand Cannon [1x] (None) gun icon RNG: 12 ROF: 1 AOE: - POW: 12 Great Sword [1x] (None) sword icon RNG: 2 POW: 6 P+S: 15
STANDARD BEARER Repairable - See above. Standard Bearer - While this model is within 5˝ of its unit commander, the unit commander gains +2 CMD.
WEAPONS [STANDARD BEARER] Gladius [1x] (None) sword icon RNG: 1 POW: 4 P+S: 13
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Post by hocestbellum on Feb 7, 2018 18:02:51 GMT
Man-O-War Suppression Tanker – Man-O-War Force Book 10 FONT Khador Solo TANKER SPD STR MAT RAT DEF ARM CMD 4 9 7 6 9 17 5 FA: 2 Point Cost: 6 Base Size: Large Damage: 10
TANKER Bulldoze - When this model is B2B with an enemy model during its Normal Movement, it can push that model up to 2˝ directly away from it. A model can be pushed by Bulldoze only once per activation. Bulldoze has no effect when this model makes a trample power attack. Dual Attack - This model can make melee and ranged attacks in the same activation. When this model makes its initial melee attacks or a power attack, it can also make its initial ranged attacks. This model can make ranged attacks even while in melee. Repairable - This model can be targeted with Repair special actions as if it were a construct model.
WEAPONS [TANKER] Volley Gun [2x] (None) gun icon RNG: 10 ROF: d3 AOE: - POW: 12 Concentrated Blast (★ Attack) - This weapon becomes RNG SP 10 and POW 16 for this attack. Covering Fire (★Action) - Place a wall template anywhere completely within this weapon’s RNG and this model’s LOS, ignoring intervening models. A model entering or ending its activation in the template suffers a damage roll with POW equal to the POW of this weapon. The template remains in play for one round. If this model is destroyed or removed from play, immediately remove the template from play. Volley Fire - This weapon’s attack rolls against warrior models are boosted. Shield [2x] (None) sword icon RNG: 0.5 POW: 3 P+S: 12 Shield
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on Feb 7, 2018 18:03:24 GMT
Oh dude, I understand you. Some of it was head scratching. Defensive line on MOW is pretty...useless. However, I think you need to open up the creativity a bit. Im open im not trying to be negative. I was even positive about the Grymkin but the SECOND you have any doubt: "GET OUT OF OUR CHURCH HERETIC!"I have just been slamming for a while and just overall the reason why the Tankers smite didn't impress me is the 1d6 slam roll. 1d6 is just so unreliable. I just can't make serious plans around that. And its already so similar to the Gun Carriage. Which costs 1 point more and is significantly better. Not terrible. Alright-goodish even. Just...Its kinda more of the same. Its just very similar to the type of game I had been playing beforehand with regular warjacks anyways. Its just not different enough for me to want to purchase you know? Im not sure why should I bother. This community is so...toxic that any sign of negativity is treated like heresy.
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Post by hocestbellum on Feb 7, 2018 18:03:27 GMT
Man-O-War Strike Tanker – Man-O-War Force Book Khador Solo TANKER SPD STR MAT RAT DEF ARM CMD 4 9 7 6 9 17 5 FA: 2 Point Cost: 6 Base Size: Large Damage: 10
TANKER Bulldoze - When this model is B2B with an enemy model during its Normal Movement, it can push that model up to 2˝ directly away from it. A model can be pushed by Bulldoze only once per activation. Bulldoze has no effect when this model makes a trample power attack. Dual Attack - This model can make melee and ranged attacks in the same activation. When this model makes its initial melee attacks or a power attack, it can also make its initial ranged attacks. This model can make ranged attacks even while in melee. Repairable - This model can be targeted with Repair special actions as if it were a construct model.
WEAPONS [TANKER] Slug Cannon [1x] (None) gun icon RNG: 12 ROF: 1 AOE: - POW: 8 Armor-Piercing - When calculating damage from this weapon, halve the base ARM stats of models hit. Grievous Wounds - A model hit by this weapon loses Tough XICONX and cannot have damage removed from it for one round. Siege Weapon - This weapon gains an additional die to its damage rolls against huge-based models.
Bash [2x] (None) sword icon RNG: 0.5 POW: 3P+S: 12 Shield
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Post by hocestbellum on Feb 7, 2018 18:04:01 GMT
Man-O-War Siege Chariot – Man-O-War Force Book 10 FONT Khador Battle Engine SIEGE CHARIOT SPD STR MAT RAT DEF ARM CMD 7 9 7 5 9 19 10 FA: 2 Point Cost: 16 Base Size: Huge Damage: 28
SIEGE CHARIOT Cavalry Pathfinder Dual Attack - This model can make melee and ranged attacks in the same activation. When this model makes its initial melee attacks or a power attack, it can also make its initial ranged attacks. This model can make ranged attacks even while in melee. Line Breaker - This model gains an additional die on impact attack rolls. Repairable - This model can be targeted with Repair special actions as if it were a construct model. Reposition [3˝] - At the end of an activation in which it did not run or fail a charge, this model can advance up to 3˝, then its activation ends. Smoke Launchers - This model can use Smoke Launchers once per activation at any time. Place one 3˝ AOE cloud effect completely within each of this model’s field of fire B2B with this model. The AOEs remains in play for one round.
WEAPONS [SIEGE CHARIOT] Heavy Gun [1x] (None) gun icon RNG: 8 ROF: 1 AOE: - POW: 20 Smite - A model directly hit by this attack can be slammed d6˝ directly away from this model. The POW of collateral damage is equal to the POW of this weapon.
Mount [1x] (None) mount icon RNG: 0.5 POW: 15 Knockdown - When a model is hit by an attack with this weapon, it becomes knocked down. Trampling Hooves - This model can make charge attacks with this weapon in addition to making impact attacks.
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Post by hocestbellum on Feb 7, 2018 18:04:39 GMT
Man-O-War Assault Chariot – Man-O-War Force Book 10 FONT Khador Battle Engine ASSAULT CHARIOT SPD STR MAT RAT DEF ARM CMD 7 9 7 5 9 19 10 FA: 2 Point Cost: 14 Base Size: Huge Damage: 28
ASSAULT CHARIOT Cavalry Pathfinder Dual Attack - This model can make melee and ranged attacks in the same activation. When this model makes its initial melee attacks or a power attack, it can also make its initial ranged attacks. This model can make ranged attacks even while in melee. Line Breaker - This model gains an additional die on impact attack rolls. Repairable - This model can be targeted with Repair special actions as if it were a construct model. Reposition [3˝] - At the end of an activation in which it did not run or fail a charge, this model can advance up to 3˝, then its activation ends.
WEAPONS [ASSAULT CHARIOT] Barrage Gun [1x] (None) gun icon RNG: 10 ROF: d3+1 AOE: 3 POW: 12 High-Explosive - Blast damage caused by this weapon is POW 10.
Mount [1x] (None) mount icon RNG: 0.5 POW: 15 Knockdown - When a model is hit by an attack with this weapon, it becomes knocked down. Trampling Hooves - This model can make charge attacks with this weapon in addition to making impact attacks
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Post by gobber on Feb 7, 2018 18:10:57 GMT
Very interesting, between the chariot guns and the strike tanker there are some damn good targets for Irusk's fire for effect
Also lets keep posting the pdfs in the future rather than spamming every rule up on here, makes the discussion hard to read
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Post by smoothcriminal on Feb 7, 2018 18:13:23 GMT
Berserker/Mad dog back to 8pt. They have learned nothing.
I love Decimator at 15. For long I waited for a Khador jack to cost 15.
Juggy at 13 and Marauder at 11 kinda sucks, but it's unerstandable given their perfomance. Dick move on their part to replace Marauder spam with Rager spam.
Spriggan at 17, Beast at 18 - great, should be usable now.
Colossals cheaper - please buy our colossals! Please!
Bombers were previewed, they're okay.
Demo corps already cost 15, is this a joke? Should they be 14? Defensive line on base def 10 models, really? One unit will be playable due to vengeace, but that's all she wrote.
No change to kovnik sucks. No change to Drakhun sucks. Here it is evident they didn't actually play with these models (or any mow models) much.
MOW standart of tough/relentless/retalatory and +1 to attack rolls. YES, this is exactly what the theme needs. Have fun waiting for it to release though.
Tankers have exceptionally good guns, but I'm sceptical about keeping them alive. 6 pt for arm17 10 boxes, light jacks have more and they are better at shooting usually (don't forget battlegroup buffs and foc allocation).
Siege chariot is great. Cloudwall on top of high arm army? Please buy! Direct order! Assault chariot seems absolutely useless, just take bombers.
Malakov is weird, not sure if it even changes his list.
S3 is pretty much THE mow caster aside from V2. 2xshokies + 5 jacks is a nobrain here. Outside mow theme, uhhh, just take S1.
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Post by hocestbellum on Feb 7, 2018 18:13:27 GMT
Sorry, someone specifically requested it as posts and I didn't see a reason not to oblige. My bad!
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Post by hocestbellum on Feb 7, 2018 18:15:31 GMT
Tankers have exceptionally good guns, but I'm sceptical about keeping them alive. 6 pt for arm17 10 boxes, light jacks have more and they are better at shooting usually They're both carrying 2 shields, so they're ARM 21
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