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Post by Ajax on Mar 31, 2017 6:12:18 GMT
Unofficially anyway. DGI has a picture up of what's in the box: Gunnbjorn Dozer & Smigg Mauler Bomber Highwaymen Braylen Krielstone Not a bad box at all imo. If I didn't already own most of these, it'd be an instant buy for me. Thoughts? |
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Post by Trollock on Mar 31, 2017 8:14:40 GMT
That is a decent gunnbjorn list to be sure. Bit sad that they decided to put our least useful character beast in there. I think Dozer is basically unplayable except with gunnbjorn. Absolutely love the model, but he is just a bad bomber with other casters. Guess they werent selling many of him... Still, the list looks good if you want to play gunnbjorn, and you will always want a bomber and a mauler and a stone  |
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Post by Arcaux on Mar 31, 2017 8:26:02 GMT
That is a decent gunnbjorn list to be sure. Bit sad that they decided to put our least useful character beast in there. I think Dozer is basically unplayable except with gunnbjorn. Absolutely love the model, but he is just a bad bomber with other casters. Guess they werent selling many of him... Still, the list looks good if you want to play gunnbjorn, and you will always want a bomber and a mauler and a stone I think Dozer would be money with the Pummeler. I could see someone building a Grissel 2 list with Dozer and 2 pummelers, but it always come down to: Blast Immune lists just straight up destroy them and Irusk 2 is way too popular.
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Post by Trollock on Mar 31, 2017 8:48:15 GMT
That is a decent gunnbjorn list to be sure. Bit sad that they decided to put our least useful character beast in there. I think Dozer is basically unplayable except with gunnbjorn. Absolutely love the model, but he is just a bad bomber with other casters. Guess they werent selling many of him... Still, the list looks good if you want to play gunnbjorn, and you will always want a bomber and a mauler and a stone I think Dozer would be money with the Pummeler. I could see someone building a Grissel 2 list with Dozer and 2 pummelers, but it always come down to: Blast Immune lists just straight up destroy them and Irusk 2 is way too popular.
Wouldnt 2 bombers still be better at clearing infantry? And they actually do work against other things too... |
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Post by Arcaux on Mar 31, 2017 9:07:03 GMT
I think Dozer would be money with the Pummeler. I could see someone building a Grissel 2 list with Dozer and 2 pummelers, but it always come down to: Blast Immune lists just straight up destroy them and Irusk 2 is way too popular.
Wouldnt 2 bombers still be better at clearing infantry? And they actually do work against other things too... I mean if the only job you're looking to do is clear infantry then I'd argue that 2 Pummelers + DnS is better: - It's also cheaper 28 points compared to 38 - It's pow 10 compared to Pow 8 - DnS is better in Melee than a bomber
On the downside: - DnS is not better in melee than 2 bombers - 2 bombers are much more flexible: I.e They can kill high arm targets with guns - Bombers can Assassinate
So yeah, I suppose right now Bombers are better, but if we get a Cygnar Gunline theme with free Artillery then I'd definitely consider DnS if he is allowed.
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Post by cuberic on Mar 31, 2017 16:46:03 GMT
I like it. I probably would not buy DnS without being bundled into something. Plus I don't own gunny, or highwaymen.
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Post by joedj on Mar 31, 2017 18:12:11 GMT
Gunnbjorn
Dozer & Smigg
Mauler
Bomber
Highwaymen
Braylen
Krielstone
Bold = excellent for most any army. Gunny himself is fun and moderately competitive.
D&S = surprising addition, may well be a disappointment to those who buy, who expect PERFORMANCE. Highwaymen = anti-infantry tech is too good vs their short range, for new players, who will march them forward into the grist-mill... Braylen = same problem. |
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Post by gunndrakcapthide on Mar 31, 2017 21:27:46 GMT
While I knew that Gunny and D&S were going to appear, this is still a very odd list for new Troll players overall. We'll have to see the reaction.
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Post by gdnerd on Mar 31, 2017 23:02:16 GMT
Are the Mauler and Bomber multikits or just the pieces? Could you do 2x mauler or 2x bomber if you prefered specializing over the split (or even mag them?).
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Post by Blargaliscious on Mar 31, 2017 23:21:20 GMT
Hi guys, I'm more of a Khador player that dabbles in warjack/warbeast heavy lists. I had posted a lot of this in another thread, but since this one just came up I'm going to throw my 2CP in.
Gunnbjorn
Dozer & Smigg
These two guys are pure flippin money together in my opinion. They go together like bacon and more bacon. Gunnbjorn puts up Guided Fire and slaps Snipe on D&S, D&S do Bank Shot, and all of a sudden you have a RNG 18 POW 14 sniper cannon! THAT, kids, is family fun that dad will appreciate!
So, now you're probably thinking, why would Gunnbjorn cast Guided Fire for just D&S and himself? He wouldn't, but for these guys also he would:
2x D.T. Blitzers (Not presented in the Trollkin All In One box.)
D.T. Bomber
Put these guys in the force and all of a sudden you have your own personal rampaging force of D.T. that blast, smash, and eat their way through the opposing army. You can season to taste your army with any of this stuff:
Impaler (and any of the other light warbeasts that like to spit all over the place)
Thumper Crew
Sluggers
I agree that the D.T. Mauler and the Stone are good to have for your basic troll army. I don't know how good the Highwaymen and Braylen would be (they never called out to me) but I think they were thrown in because the Highwaymen are plastic.
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Post by mrhlaine on Apr 1, 2017 8:21:19 GMT
Hi guys, I'm more of a Khador player that dabbles in warjack/warbeast heavy lists. I had posted a lot of this in another thread, but since this one just came up I'm going to throw my 2CP in. Gunnbjorn Dozer & Smigg These two guys are pure flippin money together in my opinion. They go together like bacon and more bacon. Gunnbjorn puts up Guided Fire and slaps Snipe on D&S, D&S do Bank Shot, and all of a sudden you have a RNG 18 POW 14 sniper cannon! THAT, kids, is family fun that dad will appreciate! So, now you're probably thinking, why would Gunnbjorn cast Guided Fire for just D&S and himself? He wouldn't, but for these guys also he would: 2x D.T. Blitzers (Not presented in the Trollkin All In One box.) D.T. Bomber Put these guys in the force and all of a sudden you have your own personal rampaging force of D.T. that blast, smash, and eat their way through the opposing army. You can season to taste your army with any of this stuff: Impaler (and any of the other light warbeasts that like to spit all over the place) Thumper Crew Sluggers I agree that the D.T. Mauler and the Stone are good to have for your basic troll army. I don't know how good the Highwaymen and Braylen would be (they never called out to me) but I think they were thrown in because the Highwaymen are plastic. your Idea isn't wrong in itself imho, the only issue is that trollbloods heavies cost way too much to have more then 3/4 and even then you run in another couple of issues: you NEED a mauler to have the chance of killing heavies in melee trolls lacks fury managment unless you bring whelps, that means you probably want to run in the PoD theme and that invalidates the highwaymen in the AiO that said, I like how DnS performs of the table (bombers are still better, but they have their niche) and I think it's one of the best models in the whole game |
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Post by Ravenfire_guest on Apr 1, 2017 8:23:45 GMT
Is the box a foreboding for a ranged type theme  |
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Post by mrhlaine on Apr 1, 2017 8:30:25 GMT
I threw 2 lists together, Blargalicious idea isn't far off with 4 heavies conflictchamber.com/#b71b025T0r9DeseC6R0k0meBTrollbloods Army - 73 / 75 points (Gunnbjorn 1) Captain Gunnbjorn [+28] - Dire Troll Blitzer [16] - Dire Troll Bomber [19] - Dire Troll Mauler [15] - Dozer & Smigg [18] Braylen Wanderheart, Trollkin Outlaw [5] Troll Whelps [4] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (min) [6] - Stone Scribe Elder [3] Trollkin Highwaymen (max) [15] it allows a new player to hit 75 points with only 2 additional purchases in the form of a heavy kit and whelps, both useful anyway in theme it could look like this conflictchamber.com/#b71b_-0b025T5T0r9Des7dfJ6R0k0m6nTrollbloods Army - 74 / 75 points [Theme] The Power of Dhunia (Gunnbjorn 1) Captain Gunnbjorn [+28] - Dire Troll Blitzer [16] - Dire Troll Blitzer [16] - Dire Troll Bomber [19] - Dire Troll Mauler [15] - Dozer & Smigg [18] Janissa Stonetide [0] Northkin Shaman [0] Troll Whelps [0] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (min) [6] - Stone Scribe Elder [3] Trollkin Runeshapers [9] nothing too strong probably (that's an issue of trolls right now imho) but sure fun to play |
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Post by HeadHunter on Apr 1, 2017 10:37:26 GMT
If this had been announced two weeks earlier, I'd have bought it. But since I've just ordered Gunny and Dozer I'll just add units on to what I've got - there's literally no use for two of each.
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Post by Blargaliscious on Apr 6, 2017 5:35:17 GMT
(snip)Trollbloods Army - 74 / 75 points [Theme] The Power of Dhunia (Gunnbjorn 1) Captain Gunnbjorn [+28] - Dire Troll Blitzer [16] - Dire Troll Blitzer [16] - Dire Troll Bomber [19] - Dire Troll Mauler [15] - Dozer & Smigg [18] Janissa Stonetide [0] Northkin Shaman [0] Troll Whelps [0] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (min) [6] - Stone Scribe Elder [3] Trollkin Runeshapers [9] nothing too strong probably (that's an issue of trolls right now imho) but sure fun to play
Thank you for posting this, I appreciate it. This post made me research the PoD theme and look deeper into some squads and solos I wouldn't have initially considered. While your list has the delightful stench of 5 stinky Dire Trolls, it was insufficiently shooty for my tastes. Here's what I am going to strive to field sometime in the future:
Trollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points
[Theme] The Power of Dhunia
(Gunnbjorn 1) Captain Gunnbjorn [+28]
- Dire Troll Blitzer [16]
- Dire Troll Blitzer [16]
- Dire Troll Bomber [19]
- Dire Troll Bomber [19]
- Dozer & Smigg [18]
Trollkin Runebearer [0]
Troll Whelps [0]
Troll Whelps [0]
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (min) [6]
- Stone Scribe Elder [3]
Dhunian Knot [6]
I love the smell of Dire Troll slobber in the morning. It smells like... victory.
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