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Post by The Memetic Enforcer on Nov 7, 2017 15:30:00 GMT
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Post by flamigant on Nov 7, 2017 15:54:11 GMT
Lol this needs to be shared everywhere
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Post by macdaddy on Nov 7, 2017 15:58:54 GMT
I think the pagani face makes this a million times better
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Post by darkshroud on Nov 7, 2017 16:01:55 GMT
I dont get it.
there are some there that are telling them to nerf cryx: decestrator +1 pt, why do i always have to tech for cryx.
and then there are some telling them not to nerf them: leave denny alone.
isnt that every CID cycle?
also, how did you not expect/how are you surprised at this?
i looked at the battle reports section last night and there were only like, 10 reports. how is everyone not running and writing a report with how many people hate denny1?
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Post by Swampmist on Nov 7, 2017 16:29:54 GMT
I dont get it. there are some there that are telling them to nerf cryx: decestrator +1 pt, why do i always have to tech for cryx. and then there are some telling them not to nerf them: leave denny alone. isnt that every CID cycle? also, how did you not expect/how are you surprised at this? i looked at the battle reports section last night and there were only like, 10 reports. how is everyone not running and writing a report with how many people hate denny1? Is Just Joke, why you heff to b mad?
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Post by darkshroud on Nov 7, 2017 16:44:59 GMT
I dont get it. there are some there that are telling them to nerf cryx: decestrator +1 pt, why do i always have to tech for cryx. and then there are some telling them not to nerf them: leave denny alone. isnt that every CID cycle? also, how did you not expect/how are you surprised at this? i looked at the battle reports section last night and there were only like, 10 reports. how is everyone not running and writing a report with how many people hate denny1? Is Just Joke, why you heff to b mad? im not at all, what makes you think i am? just perplexed how anyone thought this would have turned out differently.
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Post by smoothcriminal on Nov 7, 2017 16:51:03 GMT
It's like having kids argue with Santa who gets to be nice and who gets to be naughty. PP did bring this upon themselves though by their lack of ability.
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Post by darkshroud on Nov 7, 2017 17:21:10 GMT
It's like having kids argue with Santa who gets to be nice and who gets to be naughty. PP did bring this upon themselves though by their lack of ability. good thing they made this thing called CID
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Post by mcdermott on Nov 7, 2017 18:08:13 GMT
It's like having kids argue with Santa who gets to be nice and who gets to be naughty. PP did bring this upon themselves though by their lack of ability. After having people on this forum argue that AP pow 18 wouldn't be OP on the spriggan as long as it was a * attack, I don't think polling the general public on balance issues without them givng a detailed battle report is any better. Forumgoers suck at determining game balance as a whole and almost always end up as advocates for their faction being buffed to OP.
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Post by mindwormjim on Nov 7, 2017 18:32:03 GMT
I am constantly reminded of a quote I heard some developer say. - "Players are really good at identifying problems and really bad at presenting solutions."
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on Nov 7, 2017 18:41:07 GMT
It's like having kids argue with Santa who gets to be nice and who gets to be naughty. PP did bring this upon themselves though by their lack of ability. After having people on this forum argue that AP pow 18 wouldn't be OP on the spriggan as long as it was a * attack, I don't think polling the general public on balance issues without them givng a detailed battle report is any better. Forumgoers suck at determining game balance as a whole and almost always end up as advocates for their faction being buffed to OP. Whilst I argued against armor piercing on a spriggain, star action armor piercing would be powerful, but it is a spriggain. The idea being your paying for a bleh package with 1 exceptional feature.
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Kavrae
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Post by Kavrae on Nov 7, 2017 18:54:05 GMT
I am constantly reminded of a quote I heard some developer say. - "Players are really good at identifying problems and really bad at presenting solutions." This pretty well nails it. The power of public testing is well proven to be far greater than internal testing, and you will occasional get a brilliant gem of insight for a solution. But holy shit, players constantly present some of the stupidest, most one-sided "balance" suggestion... And I mean this in regards to ALL games, not just this one. On a more productive note, we should get a chart of how often each faction has been represented in the CID.
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Post by The Memetic Enforcer on Nov 7, 2017 22:33:33 GMT
After having people on this forum argue that AP pow 18 wouldn't be OP on the spriggan as long as it was a * attack, I don't think polling the general public on balance issues without them givng a detailed battle report is any better. Forumgoers suck at determining game balance as a whole and almost always end up as advocates for their faction being buffed to OP. Whilst I argued against armor piercing on a spriggain, star action armor piercing would be powerful, but it is a spriggain. The idea being your paying for a bleh package with 1 exceptional feature.
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on Nov 8, 2017 1:09:39 GMT
Its about an avarage of 6 more damage then default against a Armor 18 Target. Thats pretty good but thats not the insanity that I see people lining it up as. Because as a * attack you have to forgo a shield slap.
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Post by mcdermott on Nov 8, 2017 1:42:08 GMT
Um, your math is bad, against an arm 18 target a standard spriggan charge does about 10-11 on average dice, an AP charge does 19-20. So...Yeah, 2/3 of an iron clad on the charge attack, at mat 8 cause charge.
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