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Post by Armchair Warrior on Sept 12, 2017 23:53:37 GMT
Page 59 in aftershock, we see Assault Kommando Soldiers outfitted like his personal guard (Armor Piercing rounds, defensive fighting capabilities, flat black armor) fighting Ashlynn as an independent unit...
Just saying.
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Post by Cryptix on Sept 13, 2017 0:12:21 GMT
Duh, that was my idea of how to flesh out the Assault Kommando faction.
Kommando Assassins: Literally Strak2's bodyguards as a unit. Kommando Stormtroopers: Man-o-Wars wielding oversized Carbines (POW 12 ROF 2) and Slab Shields. Executioner: New Kodiak Chassis Jack with a Flamethrower on one fist and the decimator's chain-blade on the other. Kovnik Character Name: New Solo that gives out battleplans, either Berserk, Hunter, or Pathfinder.
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Post by kovnikninehouse on Sept 13, 2017 0:23:04 GMT
I'd love to see the officer grant some sort of damage buff and immunity to eletricty!
Suck it cygnar!
Also as others suggest get rid of shield wall and give them wall of steel or something else. We already have MoW and Pikemen for the legion type troops
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Post by mcdermott on Sept 13, 2017 0:59:16 GMT
You could also give them a CA that gives prey. I feel like prey is literally the most thematic thing these guys could be given too.
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Post by tjhairball on Sept 13, 2017 1:17:16 GMT
Really, I don't think they had a bad transition. They gained RAT, they didn't lose DEF, their grenades got more interesting...
... as the OP said, though, they're conspicuously absent from any theme force we've learned about so far, unless they're getting quietly added to one of the existing ones. Which, when themes are dominating gameplay, really pushes them off the table.
I think if we were getting something like half a dozen new Assault Kommando keyworded models in the near future, we'd have heard some whisper of it.
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Post by mcdermott on Sept 13, 2017 3:40:50 GMT
Near future? nah, end of 2018? maybe CID if its still around. They gotta get through man o war and wolves of winter first.
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Post by borderprince on Sept 13, 2017 4:30:44 GMT
If we're talking about new units/changes, my personal preference would be to play up the alchemical side already visible in the immunities and grenade launcher (and alchemy is an interesting part of IK fluff that doesn't appear enough yet). Khador used the invasion of Llael to raid Order of the Golden Crucible facilities (explicitly part of Zerkova's old Hunting with Wolves fluff and mentioned in Flashpoint). Assault Kommandos seem the most likely part of Khador to use that, especially with Strakhov being active in Llael. It would also be an interesting mirror to the forthcoming Crucible Guard.
In that vein: Specialist weapon team units. The AK equivalent of artillery units, but not so static. 3 models with special weapons: - Alchemical grenade launchers (or simply grenadiers?) with a range of types. Probably a corrosion cloud, AoE knockdown and one other; - Death whisper carbines (it seems likely that the rounds are alchemically treated).
Both of these also give options that aren't available widely in Khador - board control and AP.
Otherwise, things like AK Trench Hunters (melee specialists - rather like Manhunters or Eliminators who stalk Trenchers through their own defences) and a Kovnik (either a solo or 2 model unit) with battleplans - model them on Strakhov2's plans to reflect his influence on the AKs.
As for the generic AKs, I'd like them to get their second melee attack back.
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Post by tapecrawler on Sept 13, 2017 20:23:41 GMT
I like the Trench hunter concept! It would be crazy cool and fluffy (at least in my mind) if they were able to take advantage of the Foxhole rule but make it so it's not friendly only. That way they could be protected after their killing spree and be an interesting stumbling block for the opponent.
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Post by Armchair Warrior on Sept 14, 2017 1:04:03 GMT
A full build out would be awesome, but I think mcdermott has it right...no way would we see this before the end of 2018. Maybe 2019. We know our big 2018 release will be the MOW theme, and PP hinted at additional models for the Greylord theme, So, I hope in the interim the AKs are either shoehorned into an existing theme, or Strakhovs rules Change so as to allow him to take AKs in any theme.
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