Kavrae
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Post by Kavrae on Jul 12, 2017 11:31:14 GMT
The model itself I really like. The base with the weird thin spiral attached to a larger disc... not so much. I want to do something else with it and retain the souls, but I haven't decided what. He's impossible to transport and even if you're really careful, the souls still break off all the time. Really great model though, if you can keep it safe. Oh, the souls I'm fine with. I've been buying and adding souls to almost every model of mine that can manipulate souls. Ex: My Malice has 5 and Deneghra has 2 around her. It's been a fun addition. So far they've all held.... but it's mostly due to obscene amounts of superglue and/or being embedded in clay.
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Cyel
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Post by Cyel on Jul 13, 2017 8:42:59 GMT
i honestly cant pick up more minis. i have a huge library of cryx i need to paint. i have a couple circle lists i need to paint. i have the original CoC and Ceph all in ones i need to base/put together/paint. i have zombicide black plague i *could* paint. then, i have massive darkness, kdm, and gloomheaven coming. i honestly dont know why i do this to myself. i actually enjoy painting...i just cant... Decide if you really need those, choose a charity to support instead.
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Post by Cryptix on Jul 13, 2017 12:04:20 GMT
Ooh, ooh, I have a suggestion!
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Post by darkshroud on Jul 13, 2017 12:25:25 GMT
i honestly cant pick up more minis. i have a huge library of cryx i need to paint. i have a couple circle lists i need to paint. i have the original CoC and Ceph all in ones i need to base/put together/paint. i have zombicide black plague i *could* paint. then, i have massive darkness, kdm, and gloomheaven coming. i honestly dont know why i do this to myself. i actually enjoy painting...i just cant... Decide if you really need those, choose a charity to support instead. like my student loans i should be paying off? i wish i could write off the money i throw at those as charity.
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npe
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Post by npe on Jul 13, 2017 14:17:58 GMT
I've been running various iterations of this list to really great results. Infernal machines with a colossal lets Agathia use her kit in a way that is unique to her and lots of fun.
(Agathia 1) Bane Witch Agathia [+29] - Deathripper [6] - Sepulcher [36] - Skarlock Thrall [0(4)] Necrotech [2] Necrotech [2] Pistol Wraith [0(5)] Pistol Wraith [0(5)] Bile Thralls (min) [9] Carrion Thralls (max) [10] Carrion Thralls (max) [10] Mechanithralls (min) [6] - Brute Thrall (3) [6] Mechanithralls (max) [9] Necrosurgeon & Stitch Thralls [4] Necrosurgeon & Stitch Thralls [4]
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npe
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Post by npe on Jul 13, 2017 14:25:49 GMT
I'm also trying to make this work, but I haven't tested it enough to make a conclusion about it yet:
(Agathia 1) Bane Witch Agathia [+29] - Deathripper [6] - Sepulcher [36] - Skarlock Thrall [0(4)] Bloat Thrall [4] Bloat Thrall [4] Bloat Thrall Overseer Mobius [6] Necrotech [2] Pistol Wraith [0(5)] Pistol Wraith [0(5)] Soul Trapper [1] Bile Thralls (min) [9] Carrion Thralls (min) [6] Carrion Thralls (max) [10] Mechanithralls (min) [6] - Brute Thrall (3) [6] Necrosurgeon & Stitch Thralls [4] Necrosurgeon & Stitch Thralls [4]
The basic idea is to exploit Agathia's feat to be more aggressive with the bloats and pistol wraiths and rat fixing via the desolator/pistol wraiths to abuse the bloats. I've also found that indirect fire and hiding behind the sepulcher keeps bloats alive a lot longer.
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Post by tesoe on Jul 13, 2017 16:28:56 GMT
I wish I liked Agathia more. Everytime I look at her I feel like I should go with Denny instead though.
Speaking of Denny, is it just me or is Denny2's feat really hard to use?
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Kavrae
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Post by Kavrae on Jul 13, 2017 17:47:01 GMT
I wish I liked Agathia more. Everytime I look at her I feel like I should go with Denny instead though. Speaking of Denny, is it just me or is Denny2's feat really hard to use? It is hard to use, but that's because it's a two-phase feat that has an almost counterproductive requirement. Most feats are single phase. You use them, it does a thing or gives a buff, and it's done. But this one requires you to pop the feat, "prep" the enemy with a round of attacks, then finish it with a second round of attacks. Which is counter-intuitive, because you have to hit the enemy model in order to nuke their DEF and be able to hit them (yay circles). While I don't play Denny2, my favorite method to use her feat is actually with Bile Thralls. Auto-hit sprays that you can cover a large portion of the board with. Then follow it up with whatever you want. Bane Warriors, Leviathans, a Sepulcher.... choose your flavor. Either way, it requires a wave of accurate models followed by a wave of models that need more accuracy. Now I'm not saying it's a bad feat, because it has plenty of use-cases. Just that's it's difficult to use in the first place.
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npe
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Post by npe on Jul 13, 2017 18:07:16 GMT
I wish I liked Agathia more. Everytime I look at her I feel like I should go with Denny instead though. Speaking of Denny, is it just me or is Denny2's feat really hard to use? Agathia is more defensive than Denny1, if you want to deliver large numbers of cheap troops and make them do interesting things she's your caster. The problem is that the Coven's feat is often better so coming up with ways to leverage other parts of her toolkit (hellwrought, parasite) is required to make her interesting. My current jank is trying to stationary stuff with pistol wraiths to set up mcthralls, arcing fire from bloats or pushing up with biles and using her feat to protect them. Denny2's feat is a pain, but if you've got a lot of shooting it becomes really useful.
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kuarnix
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Post by kuarnix on Jul 13, 2017 18:36:00 GMT
I wish I liked Agathia more. Everytime I look at her I feel like I should go with Denny instead though. Speaking of Denny, is it just me or is Denny2's feat really hard to use? I actually like Agathia a lot; I feel like she does just about everything you want in your 'basic' Cryx 'caster: Ghost Walk, Parasite, Hellfire, a moderate delivery measure in her feat, and a bonus ARM buff for a 'jack (that incidentally has nice syngery with the Inflictor). She doesn't really do anything surprising though. Denny2's feat is a real pain. When you take shooting Arc Nodes it's okay, because you can apply the debuff. If you can get boosted shooting (like from a Pistol Wraith after you feed it souls) it does okay too. I also apply it with a Stalker a lot (the high MAT, back strike potential, etc). But yeah it mostly seems useful to help gun down specific targets, it's not much of a control feat (besides forcing a Shake Effects focus expenditure).
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Post by Cryptix on Jul 13, 2017 18:42:02 GMT
Hopefully Denny2 will be better when we get those Bane Snipers Pagani was talking about.
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Post by tesoe on Jul 13, 2017 19:23:32 GMT
Hopefully Denny2 will be better when we get those Bane Snipers Pagani was talking about. Bane sniper??? I missed this news. What did he say?
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Kavrae
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Post by Kavrae on Jul 13, 2017 19:29:09 GMT
Hopefully Denny2 will be better when we get those Bane Snipers Pagani was talking about. Bane sniper??? I missed this news. What did he say? This is a terrifying idea. What do they do? Fire Scrap Thralls out of a cannon? Axe-launchers? Inaccurate but devastatingly powerful long range rockets stolen from Menoth or Khador? Hmmm... Maybe an overly large rifle weapon attachment with anti-tank rounds that pushes the user back d3" when fired. Actually, I'm starting to like the Scrap Thrall cannon idea.
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Post by Cryptix on Jul 13, 2017 19:42:00 GMT
We don't know anything about them, Pagani just mentioned it on facebook when Nyxu was asking about new Cryx releases.
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npe
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Post by npe on Jul 13, 2017 21:31:40 GMT
I wish I liked Agathia more. Everytime I look at her I feel like I should go with Denny instead though. Speaking of Denny, is it just me or is Denny2's feat really hard to use? I actually like Agathia a lot; I feel like she does just about everything you want in your 'basic' Cryx 'caster: Ghost Walk, Parasite, Hellfire, a moderate delivery measure in her feat, and a bonus ARM buff for a 'jack (that incidentally has nice syngery with the Inflictor). She doesn't really do anything surprising though. Denny2's feat is a real pain. When you take shooting Arc Nodes it's okay, because you can apply the debuff. If you can get boosted shooting (like from a Pistol Wraith after you feed it souls) it does okay too. I also apply it with a Stalker a lot (the high MAT, back strike potential, etc). But yeah it mostly seems useful to help gun down specific targets, it's not much of a control feat (besides forcing a Shake Effects focus expenditure). I view Denny2's feat as "free boost after first hit". If you think of it that way it's a lot more useful. Things with mass volumes of attacks like McThralls really benefit from this.
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