Lanz
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Post by Lanz on Jul 17, 2017 1:03:58 GMT
This may sound bizarre, but bear with me... (Note that I have not tested this out, nor have I even played against Karchev before, this is literally a plan I came up with on the fly. I just looked up his stats really quick.) Rhyas1's personal threat range is absolutely insane. I'm almost always able to get to a warlock on turn two. So, here's the idea. Karchev the terrible has more armor and damage boxes than Rhyas can get through. Something like a Scythean will likely be killed before its able to threaten on the feat, as people who know how your list works will be afraid. So, here's the plan: Build a Rhyas1 gunline. Its insane, but hear me out. Peg Karchev with as many "stray" bullets as you can, even it costs you a unit a turn. Continually check up on Karchev's HP (and remove any repairing models you can). When he's at atleast 18 HP, feat and charge in with Rhyas, killing any models that have any leftover focus on them (not that there would be many, in Warmachine). Hopefully you crit at least twice, and chop off his head. Warmachine camp is a lot less threatening than Hordes camp, due to the nature of damage removal. Seraphs + Bloodseer is required. Do you want Rhyas to have a 16" threat range with 5 fury, or a 17" threat range with 3 fury? Yes, yes you do. I've yet to try it yet, but I have a Rhyas list that is built single-mindedly to deliver and buff her with everything we have available. The 'play' being not getting rhyas into position, because with all that stuff it's pretty much inevitable. It's about getting rhyas into position with as much buffs as humanly possible, because theoretically with enough accuracy/damage buffs, she'll kill most warcasters in the game even without critting. With a Blightbringer, BFS, and seraph alone (all possible in Oracles), if you can make it all happen, that's effectively +6 to hit and +4 to damage.
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Jul 17, 2017 5:39:04 GMT
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Post by snotling on Jul 17, 2017 5:39:04 GMT
How do you get those ranges? Spd7+2reach+3charge+2slipstream. Gets me to 14. 15 with spell.
I never killed any caster with rhyas herself. Its allways protheus or the scythean.
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Post by chillychinaman on Jul 17, 2017 14:30:17 GMT
How do you get those ranges? Spd7+2reach+3charge+2slipstream. Gets me to 14. 15 with spell. I never killed any caster with rhyas herself. Its allways protheus or the scythean. Slipstream from a Bloodseer
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Post by ForEver_Blight on Jul 17, 2017 14:34:25 GMT
How do you get those ranges? Spd7+2reach+3charge+2slipstream. Gets me to 14. 15 with spell. I never killed any caster with rhyas herself. Its allways protheus or the scythean. Slipstream from a Bloodseer I may be wrong but I swear slipstream says a model can only be moved once per turn by Slipstream.
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Post by chillychinaman on Jul 17, 2017 14:42:30 GMT
Slipstream from a Bloodseer I may be wrong but I swear slipstream says a model can only be moved once per turn by Slipstream. You are correct, but that was davycannonhound's and my assumption.
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Post by snotling on Jul 17, 2017 16:15:40 GMT
the problem with rhyas herself assasinating is: no competent player will ever put his caster in 14" of her. and if you feat, charge something else, place and attack, you lost your charge attack. with a bit of camt that becomes quite survivable.
I mostly use herself te feat, clear lanes and sprint her in a good position for her feat to affect a lot of models, the protheus and the scythean, charge something, place and wreck the caster/lock (protheus first, for his pull) i have raptors and hellmouths in the list, just to take my opponents mind off the assasination. xd. works more often then you would think
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Post by davycannonhound on Jul 17, 2017 22:22:00 GMT
Slipstream from a Bloodseer I may be wrong but I swear slipstream says a model can only be moved once per turn by Slipstream. If thats the case then there's a lot that needs to be corrected on Battlecollege.org, because there are at least two references that I remember which involve using the Seraph + Bloodseer combo.
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Lanz
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Terrible
Jul 18, 2017 1:19:22 GMT
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Post by Lanz on Jul 18, 2017 1:19:22 GMT
I may be wrong but I swear slipstream says a model can only be moved once per turn by Slipstream. If thats the case then there's a lot that needs to be corrected on Battlecollege.org, because there are at least two references that I remember which involve using the Seraph + Bloodseer combo. Battlecollege being unreliable is hardly anything new. Take everything there with a grain of salt and trust your rules first.
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Whiskie
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Post by Whiskie on Jul 18, 2017 2:45:20 GMT
I may be wrong but I swear slipstream says a model can only be moved once per turn by Slipstream. If thats the case then there's a lot that needs to be corrected on Battlecollege.org, because there are at least two references that I remember which involve using the Seraph + Bloodseer combo. Never trust Battle College. It's crap.
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Post by snotling on Jul 18, 2017 10:00:05 GMT
If thats the case then there's a lot that needs to be corrected on Battlecollege.org, because there are at least two references that I remember which involve using the Seraph + Bloodseer combo. Never trust Battle College. It's crap. its like wikipedia for scientific work, you can go there for quick reference or a broad overview, but never trust anything there.
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