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Post by allinontrolls on Jan 25, 2018 18:10:30 GMT
I built the List in warroom and it worked. Not sure if this is a official piece
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Post by allinontrolls on Jan 24, 2018 19:08:38 GMT
Hi,
I am really all in on kolgrima singe reading the first battle reports.
That would be my current adr build
War Room Army
Trollblood - New Army
Theme: The Power of Dhunia
3 / 3 Free Cards 74 / 75 Army 40 / 40 Specialist
Kolgrima Stonetruth, Winter Witch - WB: +28
- Trollkin Runebearer - PC: 0
- Dire Troll Bomber - PC: 19 (Battlegroup Points Used: 19)
- Dire Troll Mauler - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 9)
- Earthborn Dire Troll - PC: 14
- Mulg the Ancient - PC: 22
- Troll Axer - PC: 10
Troll Whelps - 5 Whelps: 0
Northkin Shaman - PC: 0
Lanyssa Ryssyl, Nyss Sorceress - PC: 4
Dhunian Knot - Leader & 2 Grunts: 6
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9
- Stone Scribe Elder - PC: 3
SPECIALISTS
Storm Troll - PC: 9
Earthborn Dire Troll - PC: 14
Troll Bouncer - PC: 9
Lynus Wesselbaum & Edrea Lloryrr - Lynus & Edrea: 5
Northkin Elder - PC: 3
THEME: The Power of Dhunia
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GENERATED : 01/24/2018 19:47:28
BUILD ID : 2059.17-12-30
The idea of the adr build is to play into every cygnar matchup. Northkin elder should help to be able to clear higher armor infantry.
In general this list should be able to play into a lot of the current meta.
Questionable could be:
- skorne gunline
- Coc/menoth/cryx recursion
- troll mirror
As adr casters we are allowed to play Ragnor, grim,eborka.
I think we find a good answer in boh. So it comes down to grim or eborka.
I am really uninspired to find a second list I like to play.
For me the main goal is to test skorne double be gunline vs kolgrima.this would help to determine a second list.
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Post by allinontrolls on Jan 23, 2018 20:01:02 GMT
I would consider saxxon as a contesting solo for your flag. He is one of the best solos to score at your flag.
Do you really think u need a unit for contesting? My thoughts would be a bouncer arm21 + earth blessing + cloud really need a lot of investment to remove.
Feralgeist or the new minions shield guard unit could help for scenario play too.
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Post by allinontrolls on Jan 23, 2018 16:24:21 GMT
The Nerf to her Feat really hurts Denny and I think she will drop in popularity. Cryx already got plenty of good themes and will switch to other lists.
After some thoughts I would drop kolgrima into gf. Gf already struggles to crack armor without dennys debuffs. Mulg + owl will help 2 beasts to be immune to her spells + clouds + sprays + perhaps longshops in adr could really swing the matchup.
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Post by allinontrolls on Jan 23, 2018 13:00:29 GMT
I think any current grim build is able to play into gf with the help of adr.
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Post by allinontrolls on Jan 23, 2018 12:22:24 GMT
In My opinion kolgrimma and grim really work well together as a pair. Grim could work well vs infantry lists and kolgrima could handle armor and shooting. So I would go for kolgrima pod and grim sotn or perhaps even kc
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Post by allinontrolls on Jan 22, 2018 18:40:02 GMT
are the winter trolls a missclick or do you want sprays for days? If you wanna play a winter troll GK build i would go for gunny and guided fire will work wonders. 3 fully boosted GK shots with range 16 (snipe) + power 16 yes please. i build a gunny list similar to your list : conflictchamber.com/#c7201b_-0b029DfmiYiY0404jq7dfF6Rfp0li-Trollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] The Power of Dhunia !!! Your army contains pre-release entries. (Gunnbjorn 1) Captain Gunnbjorn [+28] - Dire Troll Mauler [15] - Glacier King [35] - Ice Troll [9] - Ice Troll [9] - Winter Troll [8] - Winter Troll [8] - Trollkin Runebearer [0(5)] Janissa Stonetide [0(4)] Swamp Gobber Chef [1] Troll Whelps [0(4)] Dhunian Knot [6] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (max) [9] - Northkin Elder [3] |
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Post by allinontrolls on Jan 22, 2018 17:24:24 GMT
I really like the basher in Theory. Never played him yet. Power 14 pathfinder for 7 points is really cheap. He could even be a good primal target cause a 7 point piece that frenzys should be OK. Crit stagger is a nice goody but I would not count on it.
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Post by allinontrolls on Jan 22, 2018 15:27:41 GMT
In my opinion the main problem for the ww is that he is only allowed in our weakest theme. For the hh I think it is more fluff then good. Perhaps their will be some lists where he is playable.
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Post by allinontrolls on Jan 22, 2018 6:10:52 GMT
Any ideas what you would like as your adr options?
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Post by allinontrolls on Jan 21, 2018 9:53:14 GMT
In my opinion longchops will help a lot. Just thinking about the option to switch between longchops(solo) and weselbaum(unit) really wants me to be all in on adr with kolgrima.
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Post by allinontrolls on Jan 19, 2018 19:24:17 GMT
So I find myself at an impasse. I want to play Kolgrima as an armor cracker and have usually taken a beast brick to do this.
However infantry is clearly the way the world is going so Maybe I could run a list in SotN and one in BoH.
What do you guys think, which do you prefer?
Kolgrima (PoD)
- Runebearer
- Mulg
- Brawler
- Mauler
- Earthborn
- Axer
- Winter Troll
Max Stone + Northkin Attachment
Dhunian Knot
Shaman
Whelps
or
Kolgrima (SotN)
- Runebearer
- Rok
- Pyre
Max Krielstone + NE
Max Champions
Max Champions
Fire Eaters
Fire Eaters
Bear Handlers
Fell Caller Hero
Valka
Min Bone Grinders
Gremlin Swarm
Pow 14 weapon master champs seem good. I would probably look to pair it with Madrak 1 in BoH in a 2 list pairing. The Madrak list would be my Cryx drop.
I like the idea of playing kolgrima as a armor cracking list. I would go for pod cause kolgrima mulg is really nice. Something to consider might be bashers. If you keep the knot u are able to fish crit daggers and native pathfinder allows to rage them all the time hitting with power 17 beat back for 7 points. I will go for: War Room Army Trollblood - New Army Theme: The Power of Dhunia 3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army Kolgrima Stonetruth, Winter Witch - WB: +28 - Trollkin Runebearer - PC: 0 - Dire Troll Mauler - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 15) - Mulg the Ancient - PC: 22 (Battlegroup Points Used: 13) - Troll Axer - PC: 10 - Storm Troll - PC: 9 - Earthborn Dire Troll - PC: 14 - Dire Troll Mauler - PC: 15 Troll Whelps - 5 Whelps: 0 Northkin Shaman - PC: 0 Totem Hunter - PC: 6 Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9 - Stone Scribe Elder - PC: 3 I think the totem hunter will help in scenario play and kill solos of the opponent flag and sprint back behind a forest or cloud wall. THEME: The Power of Dhunia --- GENERATED : 01/20/2018 22:53:26 BUILD ID : 2059.17-12-30 |
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Post by allinontrolls on Jan 18, 2018 20:01:04 GMT
So switching one ebdt to a mauler and tanebaum to llanyssa seems a good idea if your second list is able to fight cygnar
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Post by allinontrolls on Jan 18, 2018 4:15:39 GMT
Two questions about the eborka list.
Is their a reason your list did not have a mauler for the rage animus?
I am really interested in your experience of Lyness&edrea instead of the usual llanyssa pick which would help to upgrade 1 ebdt to a mauler.
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Post by allinontrolls on Jan 16, 2018 15:53:54 GMT
i would like to agree with trollock but i see no reason why i should pick eborka if i wanna play Sotn instead of a madrak or grissel2. Like mentioned eborka is a really nice countercharging beast but does not support his army and this is the reason i would play him in Pod. The good eborka results were played in POD and you got another good beast for free in form of eborka. In therory bashers as countercharger could be a nice idea for crit fishing. I am not quiet sure how a countercharged crit stagger would interact with a charge attack of your opponent.
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