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Post by maximumhippo on Feb 7, 2018 11:32:21 GMT
CotD with Zuriel and mild Nephilim Soldier spam is your best bet for true anti-warjack spam. Along with warlords. Theres three sources of precision strike right there. As well as a decapitation, which scares anything. Honestly though, anything meant to kill warbeasts instantly is probably going to do the same to warjacks, just maybe with a little more difficulty. I used to run Double swordsmen, double warlord, double Neph soldier under Kryssa. There was one game, I took 4 protectorate heavies in one turn and cut cortexes out of another two. At the same event, I saw a guy literally one-shot an Ironclad from full with his warlord. Precision strike is the best rule.
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Post by davycannonhound on Feb 7, 2018 17:31:38 GMT
CotD with Zuriel and mild Nephilim Soldier spam is your best bet for true anti-warjack spam. Along with warlords. Theres three sources of precision strike right there. As well as a decapitation, which scares anything. Honestly though, anything meant to kill warbeasts instantly is probably going to do the same to warjacks, just maybe with a little more difficulty. I used to run Double swordsmen, double warlord, double Neph soldier under Kryssa. There was one game, I took 4 protectorate heavies in one turn and cut cortexes out of another two. At the same event, I saw a guy literally one-shot an Ironclad from full with his warlord. Precision strike is the best rule. Amen. Mind posting the list?
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Post by copperflame on Feb 7, 2018 21:58:11 GMT
As a player who OFTEN faces Khador - I would like to see a few armor cracking lists that won't melt to AoE or advice on what to do to mitigate that.
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haurukh
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Post by haurukh on Feb 7, 2018 22:34:19 GMT
As a player who OFTEN faces Khador - I would like to see a few armor cracking lists that won't melt to AoE or advice on what to do to mitigate that. I find Fyanna's Iron Flesh on Swordsmen to be pretty helpfull. Gallows can also sometimes help extend threat ranges, and Swordsmen take her feat pretty nicely (especially when blast immune)
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Post by ForEver_Blight on Feb 7, 2018 22:45:00 GMT
As a player who OFTEN faces Khador - I would like to see a few armor cracking lists that won't melt to AoE or advice on what to do to mitigate that. Don't look at the new CiD. They got even more AoE on battle engines, hard to kill heavy infantry that can just be handed tough or defensive line, and even a ridiculous spray bot solo that's 6 points Arm 21, 10 boxes. #balance
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Post by yourmumrang on Feb 7, 2018 22:48:12 GMT
Correction: free ARM21 10 box solo
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Post by Lanz on Feb 7, 2018 23:46:41 GMT
I took on Khador 'jack-spam back before it was nerfed with lots of system damage via precision strike, so that's probably what I would recommend. Thagrosh1 CoTD potentially outputs a LOT of precision strike while also being reasonably bricky itself. Take the 3 characters, a full unit of swordsmen, and a bunch of nephilim soldiers. Use the free points for the swordsmen CA and solo, and maybe Incubi, and you should have a promising list into jackspam.
edit: bonus points if you squeeze in a gremlin swarm. Those are hilarious into jackspams.
edit: as for the khador CID, double thrones or Anamag should make them sweat.
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Post by maximumhippo on Feb 8, 2018 4:29:49 GMT
I used to run Double swordsmen, double warlord, double Neph soldier under Kryssa. There was one game, I took 4 protectorate heavies in one turn and cut cortexes out of another two. At the same event, I saw a guy literally one-shot an Ironclad from full with his warlord. Precision strike is the best rule. Amen. Mind posting the list? It's been a while so, this is pretty close. I swear I had a Hellion in there but i can't remember how the points worked. conflictchamber.com/#ca201b_-0ug3g_28aLaLbucN2929fUfUcoa_b0a_b0b2Legion Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Children of the Dragon (Kryssa 1) Kryssa, Conviction of Everblight [+31] - Azrael [21] - Harrier [3] - Nephilim Soldier [9] - Nephilim Soldier [9] - Succubus [4] Beast Mistress [4] - Shredder [4] - Shredder [4] Blighted Nyss Warlord [5] Blighted Nyss Warlord [5] Spell Martyr [1] Blighted Nyss Swordsmen (max) [15] - Blighted Nyss Swordsman Abbot & Champion [0(6)] Blighted Nyss Swordsmen (max) [15] - Blighted Nyss Swordsman Abbot & Champion [0(6)] Spawning Vessel (max) [7]
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Post by maximumhippo on Feb 8, 2018 4:31:35 GMT
I took on Khador 'jack-spam back before it was nerfed with lots of system damage via precision strike, so that's probably what I would recommend. Thagrosh1 CoTD potentially outputs a LOT of precision strike while also being reasonably bricky itself. Take the 3 characters, a full unit of swordsmen, and a bunch of nephilim soldiers. Use the free points for the swordsmen CA and solo, and maybe Incubi, and you should have a promising list into jackspam. edit: bonus points if you squeeze in a gremlin swarm. Those are hilarious into jackspams. edit: as for the khador CID, double thrones or Anamag should make them sweat. RE: gremlin swarms. It wasn't me but a local khador player was playing against Grymkin and had his demolisher surrounded by all four, and they killed the thing over three turns. Hilarious.
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Lanz
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Post by Lanz on Feb 8, 2018 4:45:08 GMT
I took on Khador 'jack-spam back before it was nerfed with lots of system damage via precision strike, so that's probably what I would recommend. Thagrosh1 CoTD potentially outputs a LOT of precision strike while also being reasonably bricky itself. Take the 3 characters, a full unit of swordsmen, and a bunch of nephilim soldiers. Use the free points for the swordsmen CA and solo, and maybe Incubi, and you should have a promising list into jackspam. edit: bonus points if you squeeze in a gremlin swarm. Those are hilarious into jackspams. edit: as for the khador CID, double thrones or Anamag should make them sweat. RE: gremlin swarms. It wasn't me but a local khador player was playing against Grymkin and had his demolisher surrounded by all four, and they killed the thing over three turns. Hilarious. I absolutely believe it. It was probably completely helpless the whole time too. I used to take a pair of them with Thagrosh2 prior to themes being a thing. I still wish our merc/minion options were slots instead of specifically solo+unit. I'd rather go solo+solo and take a pair of gremlin swarms in a bunch of lists. As it stands I have a second gremlin swarm that will never see use.
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Post by ForEver_Blight on Feb 8, 2018 13:47:20 GMT
RE: gremlin swarms. It wasn't me but a local khador player was playing against Grymkin and had his demolisher surrounded by all four, and they killed the thing over three turns. Hilarious. I absolutely believe it. It was probably completely helpless the whole time too. I used to take a pair of them with Thagrosh2 prior to themes being a thing. I still wish our merc/minion options were slots instead of specifically solo+unit. I'd rather go solo+solo and take a pair of gremlin swarms in a bunch of lists. As it stands I have a second gremlin swarm that will never see use. Warroom still lets me add the full FA of a "selected friendly card". I've yet to see anywhere that this is a confirmed bug and they have had tons of time to fix it.
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Post by voidbender on Feb 8, 2018 14:38:59 GMT
I built an Abby2 list with 7 shredders and 3 heavies with the intent of playing it into Khador and Menoth jack spam.
I have yet to face those lists again since building it but it has done well into vyros2 jack spam and Bradigus wold spam, and pretty much everything but guns so far. Grievous wounds from Proteus and the Scythean's animus also gives it decent game into makeda1 and trolls.
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bward
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Post by bward on Feb 8, 2018 16:19:19 GMT
I absolutely believe it. It was probably completely helpless the whole time too. I used to take a pair of them with Thagrosh2 prior to themes being a thing. I still wish our merc/minion options were slots instead of specifically solo+unit. I'd rather go solo+solo and take a pair of gremlin swarms in a bunch of lists. As it stands I have a second gremlin swarm that will never see use. Warroom still lets me add the full FA of a "selected friendly card". I've yet to see anywhere that this is a confirmed bug and they have had tons of time to fix it. I mean... the theme rules are pretty clear. Its pretty wishful thinking to say it’s not a bug.
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