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Post by Zagdag on Mar 12, 2017 19:32:36 GMT
So there is a Rask list that has been kicking around the Net for a while now that has all the minor warlocks. I have been thinking about the same concept for trolls.
No one has quite the same minion friendly feats as Rask, but there are some intriguing options: puppet strings from the Dhunian Knot, Grim 1 and Calandra.
Grim could offer an enemy army wide def and speed debuff, while bringing a battle group that could exploit his upkeep the hell that is starcrossed + haunting melody. Bouncers could keep the minors alive.
Calandra is essentially the same gimmick, though more about using Starcrossed and exploiting the minors as a first wave so her beasts can feat jump in as a second wave.
Anyone ever run something like this?
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Post by Trollock on Mar 12, 2017 19:47:44 GMT
Both Calamity and Mortality would help them, so i guess Grim 2 and Grissel 1 have some synergy. Borka 2 has a feat that works on Brun and Lug. Bottom line though, i think the fact that "everything" now requires Friendly Faction really makes this type of list a lot worse.
I think Calandra is a pretty good caster for it though. She ups the DEF of things with Star Crossed, and she can increase the threat range of things with Befuddle, and she can increase the accuracy of things with befuddle (back strikes). Add in Hutchuck for -ARM to warjacks and you may have a playable list...
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joedj
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Post by joedj on Mar 12, 2017 19:54:10 GMT
I'll be trying it in our next Courage of Crossroads League night. I think it's handicapping myself quite a bit, but in a League type night, with its strange scenarios, more casual-fun and much-less ego is involved  Something like: Calandra1 [+27] - Dire Troll Bomber [19] - Swamp Troll [8] Wrong Eye [17] - Snapjaw Rorsh [15] - Brine Brun Cragback [16] - Lug Dahlia Hallyr [17] - Skarath Lanyssa Ryssyl, Nyss Sorceress [4] Hutchuck, Ogrun Bounty Hunter [6] |
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studderingdave
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Post by studderingdave on Mar 13, 2017 10:45:44 GMT
The rask list runs 3 lessers and support. Brun and lug offer the least of the lessers so he isn't used. A battle boar is often on Rorsh as well for primal. I actually ran the list with Ashlynn for a few weeks. It's interesting.
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Just a thought exercise for myself since i don't play trolls anymore (but since pGrim will always be my favorite)
pGrim
- Bomber
- Impaler
Rorsh
- Brine
- Battle Boar
Dahlia
- Skarath
Wrong Eye
- Snapjaw
- Blackhide Wrastler
Feralgeist
Grim is minimal on the in faction stuff (man, did Mk3 really get away from minion use that bad?). So The battlegroup is stock, and also small. Wrong Eye or the wrastler can get some Rage out on minion heavies. Battle Boar might be redundant and you can get other stuff in there with dropping it and the feralgeist for another beast for Grim or Laynessa or a super solo or whatever, but at least the skeleton is there.
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skurkious
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Post by skurkious on Mar 13, 2017 22:54:59 GMT
Dahlia with Grim1 is really good.
I've run Calandra with Dahlia, Wrong Eye, and Brun to pretty good effect. Through in some highwaymen and befuddle becomes a premo spell!
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Post by TrollBossJusmu on Mar 14, 2017 10:52:01 GMT
throwing my ideas in  . Going to test run this in coming weekend and see how it goes. Trollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points (Borka 1) Borka Kegslayer [+28] - Pyg Keg Carrier - Rok [21] - Troll Axer [10] Wrong Eye [17] - Snapjaw Trollkin Fennblades (max) [15] - Fennblade Officer and Drummer [5] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (min) [6] - Stone Scribe Elder [3] Stone Scribe Chronicler [4] Fell Caller Hero [5] Dahlia Hallyr [17] - Skarath |
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joedj
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Post by joedj on Mar 19, 2017 16:01:21 GMT
So, just played my Calandra + 4 lessers list above in 3 league games. 1:1:1 record.
Calandra is fairly boring as she assists only her beasts, though re-rolling Swamp crits was comedy gold.
Loss came against Skorne. Bad positioning of Calandra's friend. Befuddled Molik Karn, Snapjaw ate him, BUT, Skarath's DEF 14 under Star Crossed was insufficient to avoid the Slam that KD-ed Calandra. Makeda3 spells her to death.
Draw came against Khador. Slow attrition against Kozlov/'jacks, ran out of time in venue. But I was up 1 heavy! Countercharge/Return on Lug came into play.
Win came against Ret. After losing my Bomber (!), 3 lesser's Warbeasts, Lanyssa H-mark's (Lug, Snapjaw, and Brine) take down Hyperion. Had to use Rorsh's Diversion tactic to get Charge angle/range for Brine. Skarath boosted attack sprays eliminate swaths of troops. Assassination came from Swamp Pull/Power Attack throw and Snapjaw charge.
Overall, Calandra1 + 4 lessers? She's boring herself, but the lessers are loads of fun. I don't recommend it for competitive play.
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zagdag
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Post by zagdag on Mar 19, 2017 16:23:13 GMT
Thanks for the battle report. I am thinking just doing either Delilah or Wrong eye is the way to go, but its good to hear some feedback
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. Going to test run this in coming weekend and see how it goes.