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Post by gobber on Aug 24, 2017 19:41:12 GMT
So minions are happy today... Attachments:
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Post by charlzheimer on Aug 24, 2017 20:14:44 GMT
why is that one arkadius list that gaston made IDEAL for this theme force?
are they just LOOKING at gaston now and be like "make his lists themeforces"
edit: valkyries are nice...hoped for 8 hitboxes....the spears feel a bit...weak... not gonna lie...having problems in placing them in lists.
because they don't crack arm and their guns are powerfull enough they might assault unit or solo models dead. Great for shielfguarding but.
Sorta expected more from them.
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Post by Tom_Bombadil_ on Aug 24, 2017 20:24:52 GMT
Man I am liking that theme though, I feel like I will be running lessers + Nyss Hunters as a solid force. Getting Lanyssa and other support for free.
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Post by gobber on Aug 24, 2017 20:42:19 GMT
Only thing I'd like added to the theme would be Bokor/Shamblers; with that Midas could run an entire Azahul of recurring bone grinders. He's still really happy with this theme as it is; advance move on the battlegroup was really important for him back in Mk2.
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Post by Azahul on Aug 24, 2017 20:45:45 GMT
The theme is real, real dumb. Arkadius now threatens to within 1" of the opponent's AD line if he goes first. With melee attacks. And I'm not looking at you, Razor Boars, because if you're willing to include them you get within 0.5"... unless you Advance Move them, then run them, then Frenzy them, in which case they're able to cross about 34.5" of the board and melee anything ADing on top of turn one.
Also now opponents have to calculate Overtake into his threat vectors.
Also now he can get free Shield Guards.
I'm really going to miss Retaliatory Strike. It was cool. But going second with Arkadius is now terrifying.
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Post by Azahul on Aug 24, 2017 20:49:19 GMT
My big problem with the Valkyries, incidentally, is that they're 8 points for three Shield Guards releasing on the same day we got a theme force capable of giving us two Shield Guards for free.
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Post by gobber on Aug 24, 2017 21:01:26 GMT
The theme is real, real dumb. Arkadius now threatens to within 1" of the opponent's AD line if he goes first. With melee attacks. And I'm not looking at you, Razor Boars, because if you're willing to include them you get within 0.5"... unless you Advance Move them, then run them, then Frenzy them, in which case they're able to cross about 34.5" of the board and melee anything ADing on top of turn one. Strike. It was cool. But going second with Arkadius is now terrifying. Huh; the addition of Wrong Eye and a Swamp Horror would let you threat 1.5" into their deployment (not that this lets you attack)...
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flogger
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Post by flogger on Aug 24, 2017 21:21:40 GMT
The theme is Amazing, I think we're all going to run this all the time unless we're running one of the other themes. My Arkadius list became very happy having 2 free shield guards and my Carver list really loves going first with this, all those beasts up for board, FAR up the board and forcing the opponent to stay back. Feels good.
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flogger
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Post by flogger on Aug 24, 2017 21:22:15 GMT
But the Valkyries were supposed to have Shield Wall as well, no? Now they seem really lackluster.
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Post by Azahul on Aug 24, 2017 21:58:58 GMT
Holy crap guys. Have you seen the Cygnar changes? They moved Haley2's Feat (among other changes) to the same wording as Stranglehold. Next activation only. Arkadius now ignores her Feat completely. Counter Feat to frenzy, which ignores the "sac movement/action" part, and also counts as your next activation, then you can activate normally. Man, it's a good day to be a doctor. But the Valkyries were supposed to have Shield Wall as well, no? Now they seem really lackluster. No? I don't recall anything about Shield Wall. Just Shield Guard.
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Post by Gaston on Aug 24, 2017 22:02:24 GMT
Very pleased with the theme, it is very tightly designed. Good job PP!
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Post by pox on Aug 24, 2017 22:20:26 GMT
So we looking at just Arkadius for this fun theme or does Jaga Jaga have some game with this?
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Post by gobber on Aug 24, 2017 22:26:41 GMT
So we looking at just Arkadius for this fun theme or does Jaga Jaga have some game with this? Absolutely! She loves access to Skarath as a grave wind target. Ghost walk+overtake+advance move can make Brine pretty scary as well.
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Post by custardboy on Aug 24, 2017 22:28:37 GMT
Really? I'm not thinking its well designed. I would never run Thornfall with this theme available. Thornfall isn't GOOD, but still. With my Arkadius list, I switch a road hog+chef for Dhalia and get 6 advance moves and Alten Ashley, 2 efaarit scouts and the totem hunter for free. Huh? Helga gets her allotment of solos. Midas gets Nyss Hunters and bone grinders. Sturm and Drang get Wrong Eye and Snapjaw. Carver gets his monster mash AND gremlins.
Perhaps its just that Thornfall alliance doesn't offer enough. Oh and overtake is a benefit we already have in a few places, it would be nice to have something minor but unique. Free run on beasts?
Oh, and Valkyries are meh.
But its only the start of week 1!
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Post by Gaston on Aug 24, 2017 22:34:18 GMT
Thornfall was always mediocre at best.
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