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Post by Rowdy Dragon on May 29, 2017 17:06:58 GMT
I just can't help but still feel unnerved by the Gun Carriage! It really hit me when I saw the concept art of all the battle engines.
Everything represents their faction so interestingly and well, with allot of personality...And we get some lightly trotting horses.
I still can't imagine it. I still can't imagine it being a Melee Engine. Those Horses will be crushed by the Gun Carriages Momentum if they try to stop if they accelerate too much or try to ram targets.
I have one fully painted, and now I'm trying to think of what to add to make the whole "Rules don't match up with the Visuals" work better. And the only solution is to get rid of the Horses, add a Shovel to the front, and add Heavy Monster Truck Tires in the back.
But at that point its no longer a Cavalry Model! Aughrhrhhrhrhrh
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Post by The Snark Knight on May 29, 2017 18:06:03 GMT
That's why the horses have armor.
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on May 29, 2017 18:11:17 GMT
That's why the horses have armor. That's not how armor Works! With their armor, your going to have crushed horses inside of decently preserved armor under the pressure their talking about. Can you just imagine how this functions? They apparently pull the carriage really fast, then they encounter a target. Now they don't Trample it. They impact it. What happens next? Well the horses stop, but then the carriage behind them keeps moving, it would either knock the horses connected to it by that wooden thing down or break off, its wheels running over their legs, and then depending on the angle, the rest of the body begins to crush and then stop over the crumpled remains of the horses.
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Post by PrincessSparklefist on May 29, 2017 18:27:44 GMT
Perhaps the carriage has brakes? Someone must be driving the horses, why couldn't they have a hand brake?
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on May 29, 2017 18:45:55 GMT
Perhaps the carriage has brakes? Someone must be driving the horses, why couldn't they have a hand brake? If it has brakes then where is the momentum coming from? Or heck, momentum to keep hitting targets repeatedly. They made mechanics for a tank..Or some sort of...Meat Thresher, but visually its just some horses pulling some guns on Wheels. A Gun-Carriage if you may. Edit: No even Tanks on treads are slow. They made mechanics for a Bus car with a plow in the forefront
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Post by The Snark Knight on May 29, 2017 18:52:54 GMT
Inside, the carriage is also driven by horses in more armor. With two more horses in armor in the passenger seats. So every time the carriage wrecks into enemy infantry, the horses all trade seats. The injured ones get to sit in the passenger seats so they feel better again by the time their turn comes around.
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Post by The Snark Knight on May 29, 2017 18:55:03 GMT
Also, tanks on treads are significantly faster than two horses pulling a huge metal box. I guess the horses inside are also pedaling to make the wheels go.
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Post by Armchair Warrior on May 29, 2017 19:04:29 GMT
Paint the horse flesh steel and just imagine that they are mechanical robot horses with a really simple cortex.
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Post by К23 on May 29, 2017 19:11:36 GMT
Use a mad dog or two. This way they will at least do something)
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on May 29, 2017 19:28:09 GMT
Use a mad dog or two. This way they will at least do something) Paint the horse flesh steel and just imagine that they are mechanical robot horses with a really simple cortex. It's not that it's the horses being the issue. It's the physics of it. No matter how tough, whatever is pulling it is going to be crushed underneath after every impact. Whatever reason that Compelled PPS-Strawman to suddenly want the Gun Carriage to be a Melee based thing better be good.
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Post by kovnikninehouse on May 29, 2017 19:56:25 GMT
Maybe we need to turn it around and the horses push the carriage to have it impact into things!
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on May 29, 2017 20:00:07 GMT
Maybe we need to turn it around and the horses push the carriage to have it impact into things! Maybe. At least that won't end up crushing the Horses.
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Post by welshhoppo on May 29, 2017 20:13:40 GMT
You must really like horses.
Have a gun carriage being pushed by mad dogs is animal friendly.
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on May 29, 2017 20:37:08 GMT
You must really like horses. I'm indifferent to them. But I really like physics and visual design when it doesn't apply to cartooniness.
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Post by greytemplar on May 29, 2017 21:10:06 GMT
I always viewed it as doing moves that chariots were known to do. You turn just before impacting the enemy, which would drift the carriage into the enemy while the horses would be relatively safe on the inside of the turn. Or you simply don't stop and keep going, which is why you can charge, impact a bunch of dudes, and then finish your charge. Chariots, which is basically what this thing is, always needed to keep moving and never get bogged down in a melee. Melee chariots were meant to slam into the enemy, do a little damage, and then get away to come back for another pass. Also, remember that those horses pulling the carriage are actually quite large. They're basically Shire or Percheron sized horses, they'll easily trample any human sized targets and keep going. So what happens with the gun carriage is likely that seconds before impact the driver applies the breaks, and pulls the horses hard to one side. Which slams the carriage around in a circle, crushing the enemy, and then allows them to pull out and maintain momentum. Like drifting a race car. Or he simply doesn't slow down and keeps going.
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