skurkious
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Post by skurkious on Jun 30, 2021 19:05:19 GMT
So I've been away from Trolls for a bit(over a year playing Cryx, Cygnar and Mercs), how long has M3 had BL and DW? Those are some pretty stellar spells for Trollbloods!
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Post by skurkious on Mar 20, 2020 20:46:25 GMT
Man Zaateroth has been my bane for months. I have tried a half dozen different lists into her and each one boils down to me missing critical attacks(like mat 10 missing def 14) on the feat turn and it straight up ruining my life. I even tech for high mat and still can't get the job done. Sooo very frustrating. Two games in a row, my opponent left Zaateroth sitting within threat range of my caster(Kolgrima and Borka2 respectively) and I failed miserably to kill her.
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Post by skurkious on Mar 6, 2020 17:09:38 GMT
I've tried scouts in several games. They are super dependent on terrain(i.e. forests) being available to deliver them and mid-level targets for them to hit. If you set everything up, they can hit decently hard and are great against some of the super-healing boogiemen but on average are very lackluster. Dropping them a couple points would seem reasonable but I'm guessing doesn't happen given their high end potential.
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Post by skurkious on Mar 4, 2020 18:07:53 GMT
I've been on the new shiny train for a bit which meant a lot of archons and Kriel Company lists. BUT, when I participated in a local tournament I noticed all the lists that felt really strong to me still involved Fire Eaters and Bears. SotN just feels like the best list right now because most of the units are a little more self-sufficient. It also has flexibility of going high mobility or being able to hit hard.
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Post by skurkious on Feb 19, 2020 23:58:59 GMT
I've been a bit overaggressive buying models as they have come out and since I only get one game a week usually the intent is just to try the newest models. So far my favorites are gunners and scouts although Crawtooth is pretty sweet and Bella can be annoying as all get out. Probably my favorite starting four are Eiryss, Ledfoot, Crawtooth and Dreyfus although I'm leaning away from Dreyfus cause he never seems to be in the right place.
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Post by skurkious on Feb 5, 2020 16:53:19 GMT
I wonder if they will let us take the BE, I've been eyeing one forever but managed to avoid buying it because I don't want to buy into Piggies too much. Almost like PP read my mind...
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Post by skurkious on Jan 3, 2020 16:01:15 GMT
Tank gives slag troll plane +2 inches So I must have misunderstood Hungerford when they announced Ledfoot and Tredz. I thought you got to move the medium base to within 2 inches of where L&T ended their movement... Still good but not quite as much a revelation as I thought...
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Post by skurkious on Jan 2, 2020 16:57:29 GMT
I think you're skipping over a few things here. Extra dice has more spike potential so is actually better when you can put it on units. The fact that Fury is an upkeep and Blood Fury is not, also has some implications. It means that some themes allow you to have Fury up for free and cycle it for 1-3 Fury (depending on Runebearer and SotN bonus) rather than having to spend 3-4 to have it up on 2 targets. Note also that Blood Fury could theoretically be up on more than 2 targets, and that the Runebearer can cast it, whereas Fury would be hard limited to 2 and would force you to cycle the upkeep. Blood fury is also an upkeep.
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Post by skurkious on Dec 31, 2019 16:29:18 GMT
Like Kevin said, Basher is great. So is the Ice Troll, Winter Troll, Bouncer, and I'd say probably the Slag (haven't actually put him on the table yet with the animus change). Then you have the Axer, Pyre Troll and Swamp Troll which are good with certain casters--I'd never take Borka without a Pyre. Swamp Troll is a favorite of Gunny and Calandra (Calandra can make them stupid difficult to hit and she likes their animus). Really the only lights I don't reach for are the Impaler, Storm Troll and Night Troll. I understand why some people would take a Storm Troll in certain metas though, and the Impaler has a corner case use with someone like Madrak1 who can play a 3-light battlegroup. The Night Troll is just outshone by the Basher right now. It really needs to be DEF 14 and maybe have Pathfinder to find a home. I love Night Trolls. Stealth and eyeless sight are super rare in TB. The ability to charge for free and have 3 initials means that a buff like rage goes a long ways. The animus is corner-case but can be a great threat extender that people don't expect. Crit paralysis is a nice bonus when you get it.
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Post by skurkious on Dec 18, 2019 20:12:27 GMT
Hey we got our Slag back!! (thinking like groove... oh nevermind...)
I think Scattergunners look awesome now. Rat 6 sprays for days is really good especially with clear! and the marked target option. Mortality or Calamity and they could be threatening heavies.
Gonna have to get my burrowers dusted off and try them out again.
Was already working on a double scouts tournament list. This change just made it a bit more realistic! ;-p
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Post by skurkious on Nov 13, 2019 22:39:09 GMT
I think we just need a few points off of units. Especially the stone would make a big difference. Or the mentioned warders: their main sadness is being 2 points more than Valkyries. On the other hand if you compare stats Trolls are not as stone taxed as one would think. It is more that we do not have enough stuff on the table, I think we pay big for tough as was pointed out here: museonminis.com/the-meta-episo…h-faye-reppas-john-henry/ This was posted on page5.de I do not know if it was posted here already. Very interesting episode. Faye might well be able to get her point of point cost across at one point Not just tough but army wide medium bases. Sure, little harder to maneuver, but the benefits of taking up extra space and being immune to trample are really nice. I think taking up space is a wash. Sometimes its a detriment because they cutoff charge lanes easier or you can jam as many bodies in a zone. I was actually thinking about the points a couple pages ago. Since we are "the support faction" have that be our thing and make it easier for us to bring more by being a point or two "undercosted". Make it so we feel like we can bring maybe one extra support piece compared to other factions or aren't as pressed for points for the rest of the army. It wouldn't really change our playstyle but might give us a bit more wiggle room and be a bit more competitive.
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Post by skurkious on Oct 18, 2019 16:46:54 GMT
conflictchamber.com/?c7201b_-1t02fmc6jq6R0k0m09hUTrollbloods [Theme] Kriel Company [Gunnbjorn 1] Captain Gunnbjorn [+28] - Glacier King [35] - Mountain King [36] - Trollkin Runebearer [0(5)] Troll Whelps [0(4)] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (min) [6] - Stone Scribe Elder [0(3)] Trollkin Sluggers (max) [10] War Wagon [16] Thought this might be fun. Wouldn't do super well on the really wide scenarios but I think would be fun.
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Post by skurkious on Sept 10, 2019 21:43:16 GMT
My take on what trolls need: Everything and nothing - Trolls are the jack-of-all trade faction, we can do everything just not well enough for it to matter. We are out-shined by the other factions that specialize it what trolls can do. Meaning it feels like trolls just can't keep up. WM/H is a game of spam that OP model and trolls simply do not have that model to spam. Having said that I feel trolls are more in need of some other factions getting dialed back to the balance curve (Circle & Skorne) and others have that few models balanced (aka Clockatrice & trident) for the better of the game. So either find a space for Trolls to be "special" or balance other stuff. ^THIS! I feel like we've lost a bit of faction identity. What are trolls supposed to be GOOD at? Bricks? Support? Healing? Hitting really hard? Doesn't seem like we have one thing we can really hang our hat on currently.
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Post by skurkious on Sept 10, 2019 21:33:39 GMT
Hey at least you still had more than Trollbloods. Wowsers...
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Post by skurkious on Sept 9, 2019 15:38:10 GMT
Just as long as they let me take the BEs!
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