walden
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Post by walden on Apr 25, 2017 14:50:52 GMT
With the impending release if our dear insectoid caster I have been lost building. But I feel lost. So our what does she want? What helps her? What doesn't work? Who has tried her out already?
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Post by tarviche on Apr 25, 2017 16:38:59 GMT
I've seen lots of people saying she's actually kind of bad at running jacks (that's certainly my experience), and her big Spellpiercer aura actually makes her a better infantry caster. Maybe even a Ghost Fleet caster with a bunch of pirates.
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walden
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Post by walden on Apr 25, 2017 16:48:03 GMT
I've seen lots of people saying she's actually kind of bad at running jacks (that's certainly my experience), and her big Spellpiercer aura actually makes her a better infantry caster. Maybe even a Ghost Fleet caster with a bunch of pirates. Huh, that didn't even cross my mind, but after looking at it I agree. Maybe an inflictor and deathjack with ghost fleet and a couple of lights to proc flank... Just remembered deathjack doesn't work in ghost fleet. What jacks would you run? Or would you run Infernal machines? |
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npe
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Post by npe on Apr 25, 2017 18:43:05 GMT
I've seen lots of people saying she's actually kind of bad at running jacks (that's certainly my experience), and her big Spellpiercer aura actually makes her a better infantry caster. Maybe even a Ghost Fleet caster with a bunch of pirates. Huh, that didn't even cross my mind, but after looking at it I agree. Maybe an inflictor and deathjack with ghost fleet and a couple of lights to proc flank... Just remembered deathjack doesn't work in ghost fleet. What jacks would you run? Or would you run Infernal machines? Two Levis and two Ripjaws make a nice ghost fleet list with her. |
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Post by tiberius on Apr 25, 2017 18:51:30 GMT
I saw her as a light jack spam caster for the feat, maybe a body guard or two, and then infantry and support. I made an infernal machines list I wanted to use with her.
2x scavengers
2x stalkers
reaper
slayer
2 x warwitches
machine wraith
2x pistol wraiths
necrotech
max mechanithralls + 2 x brutes
max biles + CA
I think it brings an answer to anything except khador jack spam, and even then, with flanking lights they cant stop, you could assassinate pretty easily.
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Post by darkshroud on Apr 25, 2017 20:23:51 GMT
i was thinking kraken. the +2 arm and being able to use a whole side bc you cant kill it is nice. then use 2 scavengers to get 5 dice on the charge?
get the kraken in 2" combat range. feat, charge with scavengers. then locomotion away? meh locomotion might be a waste...
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walden
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Post by walden on Apr 25, 2017 23:43:00 GMT
i was thinking kraken. the +2 arm and being able to use a whole side bc you cant kill it is nice. then use 2 scavengers to get 5 dice on the charge? get the kraken in 2" combat range. feat, charge with scavengers. then locomotion away? meh locomotion might be a waste... I was trying to lean away from using the Kraken. But it would be good. Also scavengers have sprint, so locomotion to get away on them would be a waste. |
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Post by Cryptix on Apr 25, 2017 23:50:54 GMT
My list has the Kraken, 4 scavengers, and two seethers as her battlegroup. I may have a problem, but considering the lights managed to take out a Galleon under Broadside Bart, and the Seethers just stopped a Haley2 feat turn cold by finishing off a Stormwall with Countercharges, I like it.
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Post by krawat on Apr 26, 2017 8:38:43 GMT
I was thinking about shooty Ghost fleet version
Morty2
Kraken
3x Light - either scavenger 1-2 or night wretch 1-2
3x Small Revenant + 3 Rifles
Free Rengrave
Free Hellslinger
I got +1 start so Kraken can get up the field. I got revenant screen so its not so easy to get into the Kraken and with 21 armor he is pretty safe against most of the shooting.
K.
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kuarnix
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Post by kuarnix on May 10, 2017 19:20:45 GMT
Maybe we should do a more detailed breakdown of her abilities and examine her bit by bit to see what emerges. It seems to me that she has a useful kit, but nothing is really overwhelmingly good except Spellpiercer in some situations. Locomotion more or less requires a focus-efficient 'jack considering that it eats almost half her focus... maybe this actually is useful for moving Stalkers/Scavengers around for spot removal or to let them dig deep? Otherwise it's kinda like....Seethers/DJ?
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Post by jest on May 10, 2017 21:36:31 GMT
Maybe we should do a more detailed breakdown of her abilities and examine her bit by bit to see what emerges. It seems to me that she has a useful kit, but nothing is really overwhelmingly good except Spellpiercer in some situations. Locomotion more or less requires a focus-efficient 'jack considering that it eats almost half her focus... maybe this actually is useful for moving Stalkers/Scavengers around for spot removal or to let them dig deep? Otherwise it's kinda like....Seethers/DJ? You can use DJ to cast locomotion too if you want to share the burden. |
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kuarnix
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Post by kuarnix on May 10, 2017 23:29:06 GMT
Yeah, I know, I'm just not certain that one is going to survive an errata round (because it feels like an oversight), but also it's a lot of points to pay for the ability. Not totally sure it's worth it.
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Post by missingtasks on May 10, 2017 23:45:37 GMT
Yeah, I know, I'm just not certain that one is going to survive an errata round (because it feels like an oversight), but also it's a lot of points to pay for the ability. Not totally sure it's worth it. I think its fine. The distinguishing feature on locomotion is the expense. Its not cheap like vanish or as far as teleport. |
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walden
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Post by walden on May 14, 2017 20:10:22 GMT
Progress report. Had some success with her using a variation of this list. Still tweaking so far. Any thoughts?
War Room Army
Cryx - Morty2
Theme: No Theme Selected
75 / 75 Army
Mortenebra, Numen of Necrogenesis - WJ: +27
- Scavenger - PC: 7 (Battlegroup Points Used: 7)
- Scavenger - PC: 7 (Battlegroup Points Used: 7)
- Stalker - PC: 8 (Battlegroup Points Used: 8)
- Stalker - PC: 8 (Battlegroup Points Used: 5)
- Stalker - PC: 8
- Seether - PC: 13
- Deathripper - PC: 6
Necrotech - PC: 2
Warwitch Siren - PC: 4
Warwitch Siren - PC: 4
Hellslinger Phantom - PC: 7
Satyxis Raider Captain - PC: 4
Ragman - PC: 4
Soul Trapper - PC: 1
Satyxis Raiders - Leader & 9 Grunts: 16
- Satyxis Raider Sea Witch - PC: 3
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GENERATED : 05/14/2017 13:08:31
BUILD ID : 2039.17-03-16
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Post by jest on May 15, 2017 0:35:10 GMT
How has her feat been working out? Seems fun at first glance, but i figure committing two jacks to each target with only the second getting the bonus could be tricky in practice.
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