Post by ninjastars on Apr 16, 2017 19:23:19 GMT
I’ve been playing skorne since the errata, but I just can't quit trolls for long, so I decided to bust them out for a tournament this weekend. Life events have prevented me from playing for about a month, and both of these lists were totally new to me, so I was going in seeing this as just some fun games and a chance to get back in the troll groove
So of course I win the tournament, my first tournament win ever
Here’s my battle reports/humblebragging
My lists
Grissel1
Mauler
Earthborn
2x units long riders
Champs with skaldi
Stone with elder
Fell caller
Chronicler
Grissel2
Runebearer
MK
Bomber
3x runeshapers
Janissa
Whelps
Game 1 Grissel2 vs Kromac1 2 stalkers, 2 shrimp, mist riders, and the battle engine
Scenario didn’t matter
How to put this politely...my opponent had some problems with list design and selection, threat range assessment, and model placement, so I kind of rolled him. first turn I go first and run, he does the same, placing his stalkers on my right flank, mist riders in front of me, and kromac and the battle engine farther back in the center. He’s put his mist riders in a line base to base, so grissel and the bomber walk up and blow them off the table, the mk puts a spray into a stalker, dinging him up. I screen the king with runeshapers on the right. His turn he uses one stalker to wipe out my screening runeshapers, critically, he sprints to a location where the mk can get to him. He puts the other stalker into the king, taking off half his health. Next turn I feat and the bomber and grissel gun down the battle engine, the mk charges in such a way that he bulldozes the stalker engaging him out of the way and ends up engaging both stalkers, killing them both. At that point, he has kromac kill my bomber for army points and then concedes
Game2 Grissel2 vs Caine3, galleon, two of those shield gun lights, croes, aiyana,
Scenario was Extraction
This guy won the last tournament I played at so I was nervous going in. Turn 1 I go first and we both run up. He has caine and co in a forest on my left, facing off vs 2 units of runeshapers. our gargosaals are in the center, grissel to the left of the mk, and croe is on the right facing off with one unit of runeshapers. Turn 2 I don’t have much in range, so I move the left units of runeshapers up, running 1 unit behind a wall and the other walks and digs. Everyone else lobs aoe’s at croes but don’t hit much. And I cast deflection
His turn caine pops out of the woods and kills 2 runeshapers, then repositions back in the woods, croes move up and I lose 1 runeshaper
My turn i move the bomber and grissel forward and kill both his shield jacks, I realize he has blocked in his galleon with his objective, so that I can move in the mk into charge range of the galleon for next turn without getting charged myself.
His turn he feats and blows the mk off the table.
With the mk gone, i have to play for scenario. Grissel moves to the right through the space where the mk was standing and wipes out the croes with sprays. I run a whelp in to control the right flag. On the left, I have one unit of runeshapers control the flag and dig in. i go to 2
His turn, caine puts calamity on the bomber and the black 13th tries to kill the runeshapers on the left flag, but they can’t hit def 18 this time. He settles for conteststing the left flag with one of the black 13th. the galleon guns the bomber off the table, and Aiyana and holt run up, kill the whelp on the right flag, and contest it. My turn I have grissel kill aiyana and holt, I cast deflection and put grissel on a hill. the runshapers on the left tremble and rockhammer the contesting black13th.
HIs turn he no longer has anything on the left to contest the right flag, so he tries to kill grissel. I have nothing left to transfrer to but I’m on a hill with deflection up, so he can’t land enough shots, and I go to 5 FTW.
Grissel1 vs irusk2, riflemen, pikemen, 2 mortars, 2 units of eliminators, 2 kodiaks and a juggernaut.
Scenario was entrenched
Turn 1 I put hoof it and mist on a unit of long riders and they run to a hill just out of his charge range center of the board, other long riders in my zone on the right, champs, horthol and earthborn head towards his zone on the left, and my mauler’s farther back in the center. His turn he runs one unit of eliminators and 4 pikemen to jam my long riders, his morters kill my fell caller
My turn I use the farther back unit of long riders and horthol to clear off the jammers, and my forward unit charges into his battlegroup, crippling the juggernaut and jamming up the rest.
His turn he feats, the riflemen and some pikemen kill three of the long riders in the farther back unit and some of the long riders that charged. The juggernaut finishes off the long riders that charged it, one kodiak charges into his zone and kills horthol, and the other tramples forward to threaten grissel. The other unit of elimiators kill one of the long riseds and end up in his zone
My turn i feat, put boundless charge on the mauler and boost 2 sprays into the eliminators, killing them (phew!). grissel gets hoof it and the champs get extra attack. The earthborn charges the kodiak in the zone but bounces (Last time i bring a damn earthborn), but the champs manage to finish it off, along with his objective. With boundless charge, the mauler is able to reach the other kodiak and kill it. The few surviving long riders kill and engage pikemen. Grissel uses her hoof it move to advance into his zone, and I dominate to go to 3. His turn everything is on the wrong side of the board, so he just doesn’t have enough to contest or threaten his own zone. He spends the turn clearing my zone of the 2 remaining long riders and killing my objective, going to 2. He runs 1 pikemen into his zone to contest, and I kill him for the win.
Thoughts- the grissel 2 list felt really good. Dug in runeshapers under deflection are at that point where even elite shooting units can’t hit them, and grissel’s gun is just so good, and it makes her a lot more dynamic than the average warlock. I didn’t even get to leverage her feat in my games, so there’s probably even more there that i need to test out
Grissel1 i’m less sure of, or I should say grissel with the long riders. They felt squshier and more pillow fisted than I expected. I assumed they would be able to weather shooting from riflemen and kill jacks effectively, but that didn’t work out in my game. Still, the list did function very well as a scenario threat. His turn 2 he did kill the most of the long riders, but it took enough activations that he was prevented from moving most of his army forward, allowing me to leverage a scenario win. Its not my usual play style, and its not how you normally use long riders, but with enough practice it might be legit. I’m still trying to decide if I could run that list better with another warlock, but there is some cache to the grissel tag team.
So of course I win the tournament, my first tournament win ever
Here’s my battle reports/humblebragging
My lists
Grissel1
Mauler
Earthborn
2x units long riders
Champs with skaldi
Stone with elder
Fell caller
Chronicler
Grissel2
Runebearer
MK
Bomber
3x runeshapers
Janissa
Whelps
Game 1 Grissel2 vs Kromac1 2 stalkers, 2 shrimp, mist riders, and the battle engine
Scenario didn’t matter
How to put this politely...my opponent had some problems with list design and selection, threat range assessment, and model placement, so I kind of rolled him. first turn I go first and run, he does the same, placing his stalkers on my right flank, mist riders in front of me, and kromac and the battle engine farther back in the center. He’s put his mist riders in a line base to base, so grissel and the bomber walk up and blow them off the table, the mk puts a spray into a stalker, dinging him up. I screen the king with runeshapers on the right. His turn he uses one stalker to wipe out my screening runeshapers, critically, he sprints to a location where the mk can get to him. He puts the other stalker into the king, taking off half his health. Next turn I feat and the bomber and grissel gun down the battle engine, the mk charges in such a way that he bulldozes the stalker engaging him out of the way and ends up engaging both stalkers, killing them both. At that point, he has kromac kill my bomber for army points and then concedes
Game2 Grissel2 vs Caine3, galleon, two of those shield gun lights, croes, aiyana,
Scenario was Extraction
This guy won the last tournament I played at so I was nervous going in. Turn 1 I go first and we both run up. He has caine and co in a forest on my left, facing off vs 2 units of runeshapers. our gargosaals are in the center, grissel to the left of the mk, and croe is on the right facing off with one unit of runeshapers. Turn 2 I don’t have much in range, so I move the left units of runeshapers up, running 1 unit behind a wall and the other walks and digs. Everyone else lobs aoe’s at croes but don’t hit much. And I cast deflection
His turn caine pops out of the woods and kills 2 runeshapers, then repositions back in the woods, croes move up and I lose 1 runeshaper
My turn i move the bomber and grissel forward and kill both his shield jacks, I realize he has blocked in his galleon with his objective, so that I can move in the mk into charge range of the galleon for next turn without getting charged myself.
His turn he feats and blows the mk off the table.
With the mk gone, i have to play for scenario. Grissel moves to the right through the space where the mk was standing and wipes out the croes with sprays. I run a whelp in to control the right flag. On the left, I have one unit of runeshapers control the flag and dig in. i go to 2
His turn, caine puts calamity on the bomber and the black 13th tries to kill the runeshapers on the left flag, but they can’t hit def 18 this time. He settles for conteststing the left flag with one of the black 13th. the galleon guns the bomber off the table, and Aiyana and holt run up, kill the whelp on the right flag, and contest it. My turn I have grissel kill aiyana and holt, I cast deflection and put grissel on a hill. the runshapers on the left tremble and rockhammer the contesting black13th.
HIs turn he no longer has anything on the left to contest the right flag, so he tries to kill grissel. I have nothing left to transfrer to but I’m on a hill with deflection up, so he can’t land enough shots, and I go to 5 FTW.
Grissel1 vs irusk2, riflemen, pikemen, 2 mortars, 2 units of eliminators, 2 kodiaks and a juggernaut.
Scenario was entrenched
Turn 1 I put hoof it and mist on a unit of long riders and they run to a hill just out of his charge range center of the board, other long riders in my zone on the right, champs, horthol and earthborn head towards his zone on the left, and my mauler’s farther back in the center. His turn he runs one unit of eliminators and 4 pikemen to jam my long riders, his morters kill my fell caller
My turn I use the farther back unit of long riders and horthol to clear off the jammers, and my forward unit charges into his battlegroup, crippling the juggernaut and jamming up the rest.
His turn he feats, the riflemen and some pikemen kill three of the long riders in the farther back unit and some of the long riders that charged. The juggernaut finishes off the long riders that charged it, one kodiak charges into his zone and kills horthol, and the other tramples forward to threaten grissel. The other unit of elimiators kill one of the long riseds and end up in his zone
My turn i feat, put boundless charge on the mauler and boost 2 sprays into the eliminators, killing them (phew!). grissel gets hoof it and the champs get extra attack. The earthborn charges the kodiak in the zone but bounces (Last time i bring a damn earthborn), but the champs manage to finish it off, along with his objective. With boundless charge, the mauler is able to reach the other kodiak and kill it. The few surviving long riders kill and engage pikemen. Grissel uses her hoof it move to advance into his zone, and I dominate to go to 3. His turn everything is on the wrong side of the board, so he just doesn’t have enough to contest or threaten his own zone. He spends the turn clearing my zone of the 2 remaining long riders and killing my objective, going to 2. He runs 1 pikemen into his zone to contest, and I kill him for the win.
Thoughts- the grissel 2 list felt really good. Dug in runeshapers under deflection are at that point where even elite shooting units can’t hit them, and grissel’s gun is just so good, and it makes her a lot more dynamic than the average warlock. I didn’t even get to leverage her feat in my games, so there’s probably even more there that i need to test out
Grissel1 i’m less sure of, or I should say grissel with the long riders. They felt squshier and more pillow fisted than I expected. I assumed they would be able to weather shooting from riflemen and kill jacks effectively, but that didn’t work out in my game. Still, the list did function very well as a scenario threat. His turn 2 he did kill the most of the long riders, but it took enough activations that he was prevented from moving most of his army forward, allowing me to leverage a scenario win. Its not my usual play style, and its not how you normally use long riders, but with enough practice it might be legit. I’m still trying to decide if I could run that list better with another warlock, but there is some cache to the grissel tag team.
