mazog
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Nov 9, 2018 21:06:53 GMT
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Post by mazog on Nov 9, 2018 21:06:53 GMT
There's a discussion going on in the trollblood forum trying to figure out how to handle HR-judicator. I thought that asking the people that play it what makes them want to drop something else might be a shortcut. Can I interest anyone in betraying Menoth?
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Nov 9, 2018 21:21:32 GMT
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Post by moquan on Nov 9, 2018 21:21:32 GMT
Which list? The gimmicky double Judicator or with one?
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mazog
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Nov 9, 2018 22:06:50 GMT
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Post by mazog on Nov 9, 2018 22:06:50 GMT
Probably the single judicator in EI. Either would be useful, though.
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Nov 9, 2018 22:26:39 GMT
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Post by paradox on Nov 9, 2018 22:26:39 GMT
Probably the single judicator in EI. Either would be useful, though. Madrak1 BoH.
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mazog
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Nov 10, 2018 0:17:15 GMT
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Post by mazog on Nov 10, 2018 0:17:15 GMT
Probably the single judicator in EI. Either would be useful, though. Madrak1 BoH. Do you think that is a particularly bad matchup, and if so, why? Madrak1 was briefly discussed but discarded in favor of Gunnbjorn and Kolgrimma, or even Horgle2. It occurred to me that a link to the trollblood discussion night be useful. lormahordes.freeforums.net/thread/8408/answers-new-menoth-hotness
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Post by sorokin on Nov 10, 2018 0:39:34 GMT
Can I interest anyone in betraying Menoth? I highly suggest we burn this wurm-worshiping wretch, my fellow menites! *laughs in thamarite*
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Nov 10, 2018 2:37:17 GMT
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Post by paradox on Nov 10, 2018 2:37:17 GMT
Durability and recursion. Gunny is improved, but I still dont fear him at all with any Menoth list. Horgle has utility with anti-fire, but judi rockets are not fire-typed, and double HoF does alot to overcome Inaccurate. Ive faced Kolgrima all of 1-2 times. Her feat is pretty strong, but it really depends on timing. Ive faced Mads1 BoH TONS. Its a huge pain. The feat easily undoes turns of work, AND stops melee. It enough of a reset to deny attrition. Mads is stupidly durable, making assassination untenable. And the list is durable enough to stop scenario. Champs ususlly win through on durability and feat in long, ugly games. And that bouncing ax probably makes support dead along the way. Its not even a contest. Mads1 BoH is the last list Id ever want to face in Trolls.
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mazog
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Nov 11, 2018 5:11:20 GMT
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Post by mazog on Nov 11, 2018 5:11:20 GMT
Can I interest anyone in betraying Menoth? I highly suggest we burn this wurm-worshiping wretch, my fellow menites! *laughs in thamarite* It's spelled Dhunia. There are no Wurm followers in my Kriel.
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Post by sorokin on Nov 11, 2018 10:37:37 GMT
I highly suggest we burn this wurm-worshiping wretch, my fellow menites! *laughs in thamarite* It's spelled Dhunia. There are no Wurm followers in my Kriel. Yeah, good luck explaining that to a Menite.
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Post by blakeh1 on Nov 13, 2018 3:17:27 GMT
Isn't there a troll theme that gives everything the ability to remove models from play?
I remember facing it with my Testament list and it was not pretty. I assume HR would have much the same problems. Of course I have not tried running a Judicator yet under HR for double stacking hand the "hand of fate" bonuses but still
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Nov 16, 2018 1:00:02 GMT
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Post by mazog on Nov 16, 2018 1:00:02 GMT
Isn't there a troll theme that gives everything the ability to remove models from play? I remember facing it with my Testament list and it was not pretty. I assume HR would have much the same problems. Of course I have not tried running a Judicator yet under HR for double stacking hand the "hand of fate" bonuses but still yes, that is our Band of Heroes theme. It only applies to warrior's melee attacks, though, and the theme allows virtually no shooting infantry. I mained that theme before Storm of the North came out, but I could go back to it, I suppose.
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Nov 16, 2018 11:51:58 GMT
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Post by macdaddy on Nov 16, 2018 11:51:58 GMT
paradox I’ve had opposite experience. Judi and Sevvy2 have wrecked champions for me. The flamethrowers alone just paste the unit because of simultaneous attacks and Continuous Fire. That’s not even with blessed... Koldgrannie is arguable the hands down best drop for trolls into Judi. Her feat shuts down its shooting for a turn which is super important. She has a solid assassination threat HR has to respect. When played in band of heroes she denies his feat when her dudes kill things. She’s just got a lot of tools in general that can screw with you. A control feat alone makes her a solid drop into a good number of protectorate lists. I’m also thinking Gunbjorn can just shoot it off the table by cycling explosivo and using his feat to shut it down for a turn. 2 Bombers should do 56 Damage to it over two turns. Once the Judis dead you can then just murder the squishy Exemplar (Cinerators should buckle under similar foccuzsed Fire power and RFP denies the feat.
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Nov 16, 2018 16:27:40 GMT
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Post by paradox on Nov 16, 2018 16:27:40 GMT
paradox I’ve had opposite experience. Judi and Sevvy2 have wrecked champions for me. The flamethrowers alone just paste the unit because of simultaneous attacks and Continuous Fire. That’s not even with blessed... Koldgrannie is arguable the hands down best drop for trolls into Judi. Her feat shuts down its shooting for a turn which is super important. She has a solid assassination threat HR has to respect. When played in band of heroes she denies his feat when her dudes kill things. She’s just got a lot of tools in general that can screw with you. A control feat alone makes her a solid drop into a good number of protectorate lists. I’m also thinking Gunbjorn can just shoot it off the table by cycling explosivo and using his feat to shut it down for a turn. 2 Bombers should do 56 Damage to it over two turns. Once the Judis dead you can then just murder the squishy Exemplar (Cinerators should buckle under similar foccuzsed Fire power and RFP denies the feat. What troll player allows you cont fire?
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Post by macdaddy on Nov 16, 2018 16:43:51 GMT
paradox I’ve had opposite experience. Judi and Sevvy2 have wrecked champions for me. The flamethrowers alone just paste the unit because of simultaneous attacks and Continuous Fire. That’s not even with blessed... Koldgrannie is arguable the hands down best drop for trolls into Judi. Her feat shuts down its shooting for a turn which is super important. She has a solid assassination threat HR has to respect. When played in band of heroes she denies his feat when her dudes kill things. She’s just got a lot of tools in general that can screw with you. A control feat alone makes her a solid drop into a good number of protectorate lists. I’m also thinking Gunbjorn can just shoot it off the table by cycling explosivo and using his feat to shut it down for a turn. 2 Bombers should do 56 Damage to it over two turns. Once the Judis dead you can then just murder the squishy Exemplar (Cinerators should buckle under similar foccuzsed Fire power and RFP denies the feat. What troll player allows you cont fire? The one who just popped stone strength to kill something else. Or maybe they are playing Storm of the North. Or you do what I do with sevvy2 and pop the stone Also, the Pow 14 S&P sprays alone should wreck the unit. Dice off 4 with S&P does work. Its even more disgusting with Double S&P because you never have to boost and just wipe the unit with 2 sprays.
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Nov 16, 2018 18:50:33 GMT
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Post by paradox on Nov 16, 2018 18:50:33 GMT
What troll player allows you cont fire? The one who just popped stone strength to kill something else. Or maybe they are playing Storm of the North. Or you do what I do with sevvy2 and pop the stone Also, the Pow 14 S&P sprays alone should wreck the unit. Dice off 4 with S&P does work. Its even more disgusting with Double S&P because you never have to boost and just wipe the unit with 2 sprays. All Ive faced is Mads1 BoH. The stone toughs all the time. The champs tough all the time, and pile wounds into the attached sorcerers, then get feated back to full. Never KDed under EG.
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