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Post by P'tit Nico on Nov 12, 2018 16:19:28 GMT
They did not "refuse to improve it" as in "THOU SHALL NOT HAVE COOL RULES". They clearly stated that being a 'jack marshall wasn't the core design of the MoW Kovnik and that the rule was just there as a reminder of old days. Asking them to improve the Kovnik's 'jack marshall abilities is like asking for an improvement of the Widowmakers' melee capabilities. You seem to be angrily repeating what I said for some reason. When you said "they refused to improve it", I was under the impression that you were assuming it needed or deserved to be improved, and I don't think it does. You shouldn't feel frustrated, as the 'jack marshall is just a "bonus rule" on him.
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Post by The Snark Knight on Nov 12, 2018 16:51:07 GMT
You seem to be angrily repeating what I said for some reason. When you said "they refused to improve it", I was under the impression that you were assuming it needed or deserved to be improved, and I don't think it does. You shouldn't feel frustrated, as the 'jack marshall is just a "bonus rule" on him. Eh. If it's going to stay on his card, I'd rather they improve it. If it's on the card but not incorporated into the kovnik's cost because you're not intended to get mileage out of it, it's less of a bonus and more of a trap ability for new players to trip over. Maybe people somewhere are getting mileage out of it, but putting rules on cards that aren't intended to be used is bad design. Like, Pathfinder feats level bad design.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Nov 12, 2018 18:21:48 GMT
It seems strange to deliberately have a model with a bunch of rules that are bad (for him). I'm not saying that he's bad, but his drive is so bad in Khador that his jack marshal rules aren't factored at all into his cost? That's... just bad design isn't it?
Theoretically it would be nicer if he was more expensive but had good rules. The problem of course is that solos are actually all free now so you can't balance them by their points cost. Which is a very strange way to design a game.
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Post by borderprince on Nov 13, 2018 10:13:29 GMT
It seems strange to deliberately have a model with a bunch of rules that are bad (for him). I'm not saying that he's bad, but his drive is so bad in Khador that his jack marshal rules aren't factored at all into his cost? That's... just bad design isn't it? Theoretically it would be nicer if he was more expensive but had good rules. The problem of course is that solos are actually all free now so you can't balance them by their points cost. Which is a very strange way to design a game. It's certainly odd design and not what we usually expect from PP.
But solos aren't always free. I regularly pay for the Kovnik in Armored Corps lists (free slots taken by more expensive models). I would not be happy if he got more expensive. Happy to lose jack marshal though.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Nov 13, 2018 10:57:21 GMT
But solos aren't always free. I regularly pay for the Kovnik in Armored Corps lists (free slots taken by more expensive models). I would not be happy if he got more expensive. Happy to lose jack marshal though. Yeah, I don't play themes at all, but... well, as far as competitive gaming goes at least, he's often free. I did originally buy him for use as a jack marshal back in MkII, but the way things are right now I think I would be happier if he would trade Jack Marshal and his Drive to get Weaponmaster on his axe back (assuming they won't just change his drive to something more useful, like Aggressive maybe). Oh, damn, I'm wishlisting again. Nevermind, we don't want him to be more expensive and the Forgeseer is the better marshal anyway regardless of any drive they're likely to give him short of maybe Reposition.
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