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Post by jisidro on Oct 30, 2018 17:14:26 GMT
... I guess we're not supposed to ever be able to stop relying on primal. Guess it's out Schtick... That and random sub-divisions in out themes and warlocks...
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Post by streetpizza on Oct 30, 2018 17:40:33 GMT
Man here I am loving the update thinking its one of the best faction updates to date and you guys choose to be salty? Not like losing out on DI for beasts is going to cripple us and there are tons of new toys to try. That one interaction didn't pan out so lets make all the other good stuff work for us and water Wurmwood with the tears of our enemies. When that's done then you can lynch the development team while asking for more buffs
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Post by jisidro on Oct 30, 2018 18:05:18 GMT
I'm still waiting on the pdf update so I can really see what's going on.
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Post by LoS Jaden on Oct 30, 2018 19:22:05 GMT
Man I'm so excited I'm bringing like 5 lists to WMW and post WMW I've got a dozen or more to try out!
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Post by streetpizza on Oct 30, 2018 19:44:20 GMT
I'm still waiting on the pdf update so I can really see what's going on. Of the cards? You don't use war room?
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Post by jisidro on Oct 30, 2018 19:51:37 GMT
I'm still waiting on the pdf update so I can really see what's going on. Of the cards? You don't use war room?
Nope.
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Post by paradox on Oct 30, 2018 19:57:41 GMT
I'm 99% certain the Blood Shaman wasn't busted. Guessing it was a safety issue. I'd rather have a weaker universal buff. She's still great and, IMO, a staple with Tharn. Parry they clearly thought so... Yup, it's a pity there wasn't a week to test but it's really hard to test the absence of something. Wasn't surprised about the removal of Repo 3 on the bloodpack. But they had too much going on... The hunter move was unexpected. If the catalyst for it was Treewalker not ignoring concealment and it being odd... then I can't figure them out. Hunter wasnt too unexpected. It was something discussed and suggested. At least by me. Im glad it stuck, too. They really needed it to be a good ranged unit, instead of bad ravagers.
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Post by jisidro on Oct 30, 2018 20:11:27 GMT
There are good shooting units without Hunter. It's a massive ability.
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Post by paradox on Oct 30, 2018 20:15:33 GMT
There are good shooting units without Hunter. It's a massive ability. I disagree, especially after 6+ months of pretty intensive pre-CID play, and a fair bit of CID testing. It was exactly what they needed.
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Post by elshinare on Oct 30, 2018 20:27:39 GMT
There are good shooting units without Hunter. It's a massive ability. I disagree, especially after 6+ months of pretty intensive pre-CID play, and a fair bit of CID testing. It was exactly what they needed. If we can't use heart tokens to boost shots then hunter was a good move
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Post by jisidro on Oct 30, 2018 20:47:43 GMT
There are good shooting units without Hunter. It's a massive ability. I disagree, especially after 6+ months of pretty intensive pre-CID play, and a fair bit of CID testing. It was exactly what they needed.
Are you saying there aren't good ranged units without hunter?
It certainly made them worthwhile.
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Post by Bomma on Oct 30, 2018 21:12:32 GMT
Beasts for Morv2 and Iona?
Surely SR isn't needed by everyone? ;-).
B.
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Post by bloodhawk on Oct 30, 2018 23:33:40 GMT
Here is a statement by Pagani in my gaming groups FB page about the restriction of divine inspiration from model to warrior model.
"One of the reasons I fought for cutting it was because of how much better all the beasts got. Substantial point drops with stat bumps means it was over the top in my eyes."
Take from that what you will. For me I really wish we had a chance to test the model both ways during CID.I am also bummed our faction loses out on a potentially faction defining ability which would allow us to remove some of our reliance on primal.
Outside of that one complaint, everything else is basically perfect in my eyes. So overall I have a very positive outlook on this CID.
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Post by paradox on Oct 31, 2018 0:25:39 GMT
I disagree, especially after 6+ months of pretty intensive pre-CID play, and a fair bit of CID testing. It was exactly what they needed.
Are you saying there aren't good ranged units without hunter?
It certainly made them worthwhile.
Basically, yes.
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Post by paradox on Oct 31, 2018 0:28:36 GMT
Beasts for Morv2 and Iona? Surely SR isn't needed by everyone? ;-). B. On Iona, a stalker is a good take for Sprint in her back pocket. I realoy like Gheto in any Dev Host list because Spiny is great for a warlock. Thats good enough for most Iona lists between the two. In my testing, I didnt heavily commit the beasts, can probably skip Primal.
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