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Post by Big Fat Troll on Apr 11, 2017 23:05:07 GMT
Okay, clickbait jokes aside, I've got list pairings on the brain. It occurred to me just now that many of our warlocks and lists are shut down hard by Stranglehold, Mortality, Curse of Shadows, Parasite, and so on, and our best answer to spells is Arcane Ward. It's great on a Mountain King, who can block LOS to Borka & Co, but +2 DEF isn't as useful on a Gargantuan as it is on something that starts with DEF 12 or higher.
So I'll start this thread as a whole to discuss the idea of using Borka as a second list for all those times when the first list that you want to play has this kind of weakness. Then I'll post some ideas for specific lists along with yours!
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Post by Big Fat Troll on Apr 11, 2017 23:40:42 GMT
Here is an attrition list that leaves theme for Wrong Eye and Snapjaw. Obviously, Star Crossed with Champs is nasty, but we're also fighting control lists, so a heavy who can't be targeted with spells seems like a good idea. The only other large base in the army is the Mauler, who can be held in reserve until later so hitting him with a TK or whatever means sacrificing an arc node. Counting the Arcane Warded Champs that also makes three heavy hitters, which also seems like a good idea. There's also lots of Pathfinder and redundancy with two Fell Callers because when you need them, you really need them. Not just for Pathfinder, but also for +2 MAT, as DEF is a thing again. If we're not in theme anyway, maybe some Feralgeists to crank up the scenario game and Lanyssa for even crazier threat ranges? The Bouncers are there not just for SG, but scenario presence, piece trading, setting up Charge of the Trolls, and soaking transfers. Borka could use the Terminus Maneuver with 7 fury and a Bouncer in just the right spot. So this is one possibility at least. There are plenty more. conflictchamber.com/#b71b079D0j0j6G6G2Q2Q4k6MbF0k0m6kbKTrollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points (Borka 1) Borka Kegslayer [+28] - Dire Troll Mauler [15] - Troll Bouncer [9] - Troll Bouncer [9] Fell Caller Hero [5] Fell Caller Hero [5] Feralgeist [2] Feralgeist [2] Lanyssa Ryssyl, Nyss Sorceress [4] Stone Scribe Chronicler [4] Wrong Eye [17] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (min) [6] - Stone Scribe Elder [3] Trollkin Champions (max) [17] - Skaldi Bonehammer [5] |
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Post by Trollock on Apr 12, 2017 11:19:20 GMT
Two fell callers seem super redundant imo. I would drop one and a FG to get a unit of FE in there for sure. Also, you COULD switch one bouncer for a Pyre in that case to light them up or to make Borka do more work in melee. POW 18 with 7 attacks possible is a thing, especially against things like warpwolves or cygnar lights.
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Post by trollsareblue on Apr 12, 2017 19:22:08 GMT
Why no Rok? Stumbling Drunk is super amazing on him. Two bouncers also seems excessive, particularly if you intend for them to just kind of hang around as support pieces. You win by attacking. I'd ditch the extra Fell Caller, the bouncer, Lanyssa, and the feralgeists to put in Rok.
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Post by Big Fat Troll on Apr 13, 2017 0:06:02 GMT
Rough drafts are made to be rewritten. I suppose I could also play Rok instead of the Mauler and just rework the BG. Like so? conflictchamber.com/#b71b07037n0j6G6MbF0k0mez6kbKTrollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points (Borka 1) Borka Kegslayer [+28] - Pyre Troll [9] - Rok [21] - Troll Bouncer [9] Fell Caller Hero [5] Stone Scribe Chronicler [4] Wrong Eye [17] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (min) [6] - Stone Scribe Elder [3] Northkin Fire Eaters [7] Trollkin Champions (max) [17] - Skaldi Bonehammer [5] |
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Post by Big Fat Troll on Apr 13, 2017 0:08:56 GMT
Another possibility, since we're not in theme and killing control lists. conflictchamber.com/#b71b07057n2T6G6MbF0k0m6kbKTrollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points (Borka 1) Borka Kegslayer [+28] - Mulg the Ancient [19] - Rok [21] Alten Ashley [6] Fell Caller Hero [5] Stone Scribe Chronicler [4] Wrong Eye [17] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (min) [6] - Stone Scribe Elder [3] Trollkin Champions (max) [17] - Skaldi Bonehammer [5] |
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Post by Big Fat Troll on Apr 13, 2017 0:24:44 GMT
Here's a weird use of Band of Heroes. Hide three heavies and Horthol behind Arcane Warded Long Riders and maybe Warders behind that, all packed tightly on the approach. conflictchamber.com/#b71b_-0a079D5-7n6G6T0k0m6mcBTrollbloods Army - 74 / 75 points [Theme] Band of Heroes (Borka 1) Borka Kegslayer [+28] - Dire Troll Mauler [15] - Earthborn Dire Troll [15] - Rok [21] Fell Caller Hero [0(5)] Horthol, Long Rider Hero [8] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (min) [6] - Stone Scribe Elder [0(3)] Long Riders (max) [20] Trollkin Warders (max) [17] |
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Post by trollsareblue on Apr 13, 2017 2:08:55 GMT
Either of those last two lists look like they could be fun. Give 'em a try and let us know how it goes!
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