Arcaux
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Post by Arcaux on Apr 10, 2017 12:17:01 GMT
This week we take a look at Grissel 2.
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Post by Trollock on Apr 10, 2017 12:55:20 GMT
Thanks for a nice article! Really fun to read about your thoughts.
Last week i actually built a list that tried to focus on the ability to give +6 DEF against ranged attacks to anything with Janissa, GK and Deflection. The idea was to use Runeshapers as a disposable screen for the GK and having them be DEF 18 without having to Dig in. No idea if it works but it sounded col at least. Will have to try it some time. DEF 18 heavies also sound pretty legit for anti shooting.
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Arcaux
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Post by Arcaux on Apr 10, 2017 13:01:01 GMT
Thanks for a nice article! Really fun to read about your thoughts. Last week i actually built a list that tried to focus on the ability to give +6 DEF against ranged attacks to anything with Janissa, GK and Deflection. The idea was to use Runeshapers as a disposable screen for the GK and having them be DEF 18 without having to Dig in. No idea if it works but it sounded col at least. Will have to try it some time. DEF 18 heavies also sound pretty legit for anti shooting. While you're right I'm not sure I remember the last time someone tried to shoot a Troll Heavy off the table. Well apart from the TEP. I hate the TEP!
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Post by chgros on Apr 10, 2017 13:40:39 GMT
This is a really nice article.
Each time i read you about grissel 2 i am about to switch form my D2/ragnor pairing to grissel/D3 for this week's tournement (40 players)
Having the opportunity to assassinate is also so nice and fun ....
Also why not the 2 bombers + MK way ?
I'll read your next artcile for sure, but could you give us a preview on you BoH Grissel 2 List and the pairing you imagined for her ?
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Post by mattmcd on Apr 10, 2017 15:03:34 GMT
I'm very excited to play my Grissel 2 list in the next few weeks. I've got a Dhunian Knot to order before I have all of the pieces for it. Otherwise it's a PoD double bomber list.
Great write up!
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mazog
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Post by mazog on Apr 11, 2017 15:10:20 GMT
I tried her out last night and had a great time, even though I was up against Irusk2 who cancels out all the rules on her aoes. I took out a unit of iron fang pikemen with Grissel alone, but the kicker was assassinating by having the swamp pull him in from dash spray range to walk bomb range and blowing him away. Oh, and Janissa tectonic shifting him away from the swamp for ease of hitting. I do believe I'll be ordering her soon.
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Post by mazog on Apr 13, 2017 23:17:23 GMT
Update: three games, three assassinations. This feels like cheating!
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Post by Big Fat Troll on Apr 13, 2017 23:41:22 GMT
Grissel 2 is a phenomenal caster and the best fit for me because of her flexibility both in list building and in action. I feel like she always has a way to win.
You mentioned Discord and the MK but not putting Discord on the MK, which widens its reach. That's also the toughest model in her army and most infantry can't kill him if they can't charge.
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Post by mazog on Apr 16, 2017 21:38:48 GMT
What do you all think about giving her a rune bearer? She can always use the fury, and I suppose it's money if she needs far shot. OK, now I'm thinking she should have him even though he is stuck in mark II with her. Earlier I was sceptical about taking him without a spell to slave, but that means I can play him safer and keep him alive.
OK, so, what are the counterarguments, then?
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Arcaux
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Post by Arcaux on Apr 16, 2017 22:54:04 GMT
What do you all think about giving her a rune bearer? She can always use the fury, and I suppose it's money if she needs far shot. OK, now I'm thinking she should have him even though he is stuck in mark II with her. Earlier I was sceptical about taking him without a spell to slave, but that means I can play him safer and keep him alive. OK, so, what are the counterarguments, then? The counter arguments are that I value the 2 shamans, 1 Whelps and Janissa more against 1 extra Fury a turn.
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Post by mazog on Apr 16, 2017 23:13:21 GMT
That's what I figured. Good value, but not necessarily competitive. Thanks!
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