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Post by jonnyboy on Apr 4, 2018 16:58:37 GMT
CG CID week 5 has introduced many Journeyman warcaster versions of our favorite characters.
Khador is getting Sorscha 0. Can anyone say fog of war and boundless charge that do not require a dedicated caster/battle group?!
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Post by cageyj0nny on Apr 4, 2018 17:00:57 GMT
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Ganso
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Post by Ganso on Apr 4, 2018 17:01:20 GMT
what?
ten characters
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Post by cageyj0nny on Apr 4, 2018 17:04:45 GMT
Sounds good! But it's only a ctrl8 for of war.
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Post by Ganso on Apr 4, 2018 17:08:00 GMT
Holly crap, she´s a winter guard solo! She automatically goes into WGK I think an 8 inch Fog is actually a boon, since enemies won't get the DEF bump by accident I'm so giddy for Boundless on a stick Also, the change to Jaws of the Wolf to allow Solos with Battle Group Controller gives us Andrei the First OMG, that such a big change!
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Post by Havock on Apr 4, 2018 18:12:38 GMT
Malakov was already allowed in WGK. Unless that was the joke She's pretty solid: She can hand out concealment and BC on a stick is... Very nice. That's a Butcher3 actually going a fair distance again, or Karchev with an extra base threat extender. Or Harkevich with legitimately threatening Juggernauts: 11" of fun when you want it or need it. She's good. And you can just give her the to-be ten point shield guard if you want to focus your points and attention elsewhere.
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Post by tesoe on Apr 4, 2018 18:23:59 GMT
Can someone post what the hype is about. Not all of us are in the CID.
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Post by tesoe on Apr 4, 2018 18:30:03 GMT
Can someone post her info? For those of us who don't have access to the CID.
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Post by hocestbellum on Apr 4, 2018 18:37:47 GMT
They're releasing some of the original warcasters (Caine, Sorscha, Sevvy, and Denny) as Journeyman Warcasters.
Sorscha0 has +1 Def and ARM compared to Kovnik Malakov, and -1 MAT. Her spells are Fog of War and Boundless Charge, and she has No Sleeping on the Job [Winter Guard]. She is herself a Winter Guard, which means she can be taken in WGK.
They are also changing Jaws of the Wolf to include 'Solos with Battlegroup Controller' so you can include Malakov or Sorscha.
Boundless Charge on a stick is pretty sweet; might actually buy this model.
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Post by wags on Apr 4, 2018 18:40:54 GMT
I actually see her as pretty meh. That's mostly because of looking at caine0 and being envious. Cygnar is already boasting stupid threat ranges with hard hitting shooting, adding the ability to put more snipe into their lists just seems so unfun to me. Not to mention his own personal threat and the utility of shot types. Sorscha just feels so lame in what she brings compared to him, especially since she'll have to have a jack attached to her. Basically she's going to be a 13 point (assuming you take the cheapest jack) boundless charge bot with a jack that isn't doing anything. Maybe it's good, but that just seems so expensive for 2 boundless charges to me. That said it could play out way different on the table.
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Post by hocestbellum on Apr 4, 2018 18:46:36 GMT
Oh, and to fill you in on the others:
Caine is a RAT 7 dual-Magelock wielding fella with Snipe and Spirit Door, with Black Penny, Thunderbolt and Trick Shot as his Shot Types. He has a rule called Hip Shooting, which is Swift Hunter that triggers on hit instead of kill.
Sevvy has +1 DEF and ARM, as this is the time before his old man stats kicked in, apparently. He has focus 5, Eye of Menoth and Oracular Vision on himself. He has Road to War, Immolation and Mystic Wards as his spells
Denny has Parasite and Dark Seduction as spells, the same stats as mini-Sorscha with +1 SPD, two Shadow Bind blades, Parry and Stealth.
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Post by Ganso on Apr 4, 2018 18:46:49 GMT
I actually see her as pretty meh. That's mostly because of looking at caine0 and being envious. Cygnar is already boasting stupid threat ranges with hard hitting shooting, adding the ability to put more snipe into their lists just seems so unfun to me. Not to mention his own personal threat and the utility of shot types. Sorscha just feels so lame in what she brings compared to him, especially since she'll have to have a jack attached to her. Basically she's going to be a 13 point (assuming you take the cheapest jack) boundless charge bot with a jack that isn't doing anything. Maybe it's good, but that just seems so expensive for 2 boundless charges to me. That said it could play out way different on the table. The fact that I can Play Vlad_1, Cast Signs, and have her cast Boundless makes me feel so much safer for Vlad (plus, he can actually hand out focus now, and maybe Drago won't be such crap after that). Not to mention that now my very own Vlad/Sorscha Fanfic can be played out in 75 point Steam Roller tournaments for the benefit of my opponents!
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Post by Ganso on Apr 4, 2018 18:53:36 GMT
Can someone post her info? For those of us who don't have access to the CID. here... 10 chars Attachments:
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Post by Choco on Apr 4, 2018 18:56:07 GMT
For those not in the CID.
Kovnik Apprentice Kratikoff – 15th Anniversary Journeyman 10 FONT Warcaster Khador Winter Guard Solo
SORSCHA 0 SPD STR MAT RAT DEF ARM CMD FOC 6 6 5 5 15 14 6 4 FA: C Point Cost: 4 Base Size: Small Base Damage: 5
SORSCHA 0
Immunity: Cold Battlegroup Controller - This model is not a warcaster but has the following warcaster special rules: Battlegroup Commander, Focus Manipulation, Power Field, and Spellcaster. This model must have at least one warjack in its battlegroup at the start of the game. No Sleeping on the Job [Winter Guard] - This model and friendly Winter Guard models in its command range cannot become knocked down.
WEAPONS [SORSCHA 0]
Blunderbuss [1x] (None) gun icon RNG: 8 ROF: 1 AOE: - POW: 12 Mechanika Axe [1x] (None) sword icon RNG: 1 POW: 6 P+S: 12 Damage Type: Magical
SPELLS Cost RNG AOE POW DUR OFF Boundless Charge 2 6 – – Turn No During its activation, target friendly Faction model can charge without spending focus or being forced and gains +2˝ movement and Pathfinder XICONX when it charges. Boundless Charge lasts for one turn. Fog of War 3 Self Ctrl – UP No Models gain concealment while in the spellcaster’s control range.
EDIT2: The other casters getting this treatment are Caine, Severius and Denegrha. EDIT: Ninja'd
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Post by jonnyboy on Apr 4, 2018 19:10:19 GMT
I cant wait to try her with WGk/OW1. She gives OW's jacks a huge threat range and gives OW semi permanent stealth. Winterguard with ironflesh and concealment? Def 14 Arm 15, no blast damage, no knockdown!
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