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Post by Forsaken on Sept 11, 2018 5:26:34 GMT
Jaden did you split from LoS I am not seeing any of your battle reports on there. Oops, didn't post here, I'm doing a redesign of the site, everything should be back up in the next couple days Got me worried there for a sec.
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Post by LoS Jaden on Sept 11, 2018 16:32:59 GMT
Site is...sort of back up, but all the old links aren't going to work anymore. Gonna edit the front page of this thread to reflect that.
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Post by LoS Jaden on Sept 18, 2018 15:04:10 GMT
Quick attack-x recap, I didn't take pics of a lot of my games because as my phone slows down, it takes a lot of my clock to get pics in at tournaments.
Before Champions: Got a quick CID game with my Kromac 2 Raptor build into Slayer Spam. Top of two killed three Slayers and crippled three more with disruption in place as well. His hit back killed the Raptor and nothing else, so I mopped up on the following turn and kept Kromac safe so Gaspy couldn't just kill me.
Champions: ended 4 - 1 in 4th place overall.
Round 1 was into Irusk 2 in Jaws piloted by one of the guys I drove up with. Krueger was able to feat him out of protective terrain and Wyrds shot him to death.
Round 2 was into Jaga-Jaga double Croaks, again with Krueger 2. I got a pretty big attrition lead in the first two turns and then killed Jaga Jaga.
Round 3 was into Anamag, I played Wurmwood. A couple key turns of bad dice and then getting low on my clock thanks to the aforementioned pictures meant that I started making some poor scenario choices and I eventually lost in points with less than 3 minutes total on our combined clocks.
Round 4 into Vyros 2, I went first with Krueger and opted not to fight his army and just kill Vyros instead.
Round 5 into Durst, same as round four. This opponent made a really clever bunker for Durst, but Durst can't be pushed and his Jacks can, so I was able to leverage my feat to ignore his feat and kill Durst.
Thoughts: Krueger 2 is really silly, I need to focus on playing him for attrition and Scenario because I'm certain I'm missing a lot by just going for caster kills. Tharn feels so bad right now after having played CID Tharn a bunch. Post CID the Wurmwood tharn vs. Anamag matchup feels pretty strong.
Masters: went 2 - 2, dropped the same Kaya 3 winter argus spam into everything regardless of viability.
Round 1 vs. Ossrum, lost the roll to go first which defined the game. Gradually ground down on attrition and lost on scenario but very narrowly.
This is clearly a Krueger drop, which I knew, but I wanted to see how Kaya did.
Round 2 vs. Wanderer DM, played around Sacrifice and slowly just killed everything. Lost a Stalker and an Argus the whole game.
Round 3 vs. Dreamer DM, played around Sacrifice, abused the fact that Mirage is a "must contest" scenario and used Freezer and Reposition to let me kill his stuff without too much effort.
Round 4 vs. Rasheth Winds, again, another Krueger drop but I went for Kaya to see. Opponent mispositioned and let me kill a Turtle top of two, and then proceeded to not miss a single attack the next turn to kill everything but 3 Winter Argus'. My hit back failed to kill his Turtle and I conceded.
The Argus list doesn't feel like a joke, it's really strong. If I'd been willing to drop Krueger, I feel like I would have done much better but the matches were super interesting.
After Champs got in a few games with various CID lists, of note I played Iona for the first time! Might need to seriously consider getting Brighid and Caul when they come out.
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Post by Forsaken on Sept 19, 2018 0:31:42 GMT
Thanks for the recap. Will you be doing any battle reports for these or no because of the lack of pictures?
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Post by jisidro on Sept 19, 2018 10:59:37 GMT
What is the argus list?
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Post by Trollock on Sept 19, 2018 11:50:49 GMT
How do you approach the ossrum match up with krueger? You cant push the jacks and it is a LOT of ARM to chew through. I havent tested it, but it sounds pretty bad at a glance...
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Post by ForEver_Blight on Sept 19, 2018 12:04:28 GMT
If you can't push the jacks with TK can you still turn them around to face backwards?
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Post by LoS Jaden on Sept 19, 2018 16:34:01 GMT
Forsaken - possibly, but unlikely. The Krueger games are all "look, my opponent messed up and I killed him" and the Argus games really need pics for placement. jisidro - Kaya 3, Stalker, Pureblood, Feral, Winter Argus x5, Moonhound, Blackclad x2, Chef, double stone Trollock - this particular Ossrum list was six spray bunnies, two units of forgeguard, and Idrians. Krueger would have wrecked it.
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Post by jisidro on Sept 19, 2018 16:42:58 GMT
Curious about the winter argus's performance. That MAT 5 RAT 4 really turn me off.
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Post by LoS Jaden on Sept 19, 2018 16:48:21 GMT
Curious about the winter argus's performance. That MAT 5 RAT 4 really turn me off. I think it's a really good list. It crushed two Grymkin lists in a row and did really well into Ossrum which surprised me. If I'd gone first I think I would have won that game pretty handily.
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Post by phantomsig on Sept 20, 2018 1:32:57 GMT
Trollock - this particular Ossrum list was six spray bunnies, two units of forgeguard, and Idrians. Krueger would have wrecked it. Im getting into Krueger and im curious about this matchup. Bunnies are Rhulic hence no pushing, and the - 3 SPD from Krueger is negated by Ossrum's feat. Spray ranges can't be negated by RNG reductions. Honestly this looks like Ossrum would wreck it?
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Post by macdaddy on Sept 20, 2018 2:05:53 GMT
Trollock - this particular Ossrum list was six spray bunnies, two units of forgeguard, and Idrians. Krueger would have wrecked it. Im getting into Krueger and im curious about this matchup. Bunnies are Rhulic hence no pushing, and the - 3 SPD from Krueger is negated by Ossrum's feat. Spray ranges can't be negated by RNG reductions. Honestly this looks like Ossrum would wreck it? Dealing with 2 units of forgeguard is much more manageable than 6 arm 22 heavies that can't be pushed.
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Post by LoS Jaden on Sept 20, 2018 5:48:35 GMT
phantomsig - those sprays are dice off 8 on your heavies, they're not likely to kill you. You've got rebuke for a unit of forgeguard, and windstorm for idrians. Ossrum can't cast bullet dodger or snipe on anything or the wyrds murder it.
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Post by elshinare on Sept 20, 2018 6:56:42 GMT
So what exactly do winter Argus get from Kaya 3? Synergy only works on melee attacks so those sprays do nothing,no assault shot or gunfighter so can't even get the sprays in melee right? How does it play? I mean 5 wild Argus can wreck face with the combo bite. I just don't see what frostwolves add to the list
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Post by Trollock on Sept 20, 2018 7:18:55 GMT
So what exactly do winter Argus get from Kaya 3? Synergy only works on melee attacks so those sprays do nothing,no assault shot or gunfighter so can't even get the sprays in melee right? How does it play? I mean 5 wild Argus can wreck face with the combo bite. I just don't see what frostwolves add to the list With the feat you can walk through models and be immune to feee strikes. You can spray things from behind, or spray the back lines. Combo strike is pretty bad with synergy tbh. You do 3 more damage at best. Better to have more attacks often enough.
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