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mazog
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Pair sorting advice Mar 8, 2018 13:54:39 GMT via mobile

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Post by mazog on Mar 8, 2018 13:54:39 GMT

I've just locked myself into this position for a local steamroller, and would like advice on which to take against what. Borka2 seems best for gunlines, Jack lists, dude spam, and scenario, and Calandra for attrition and serious armor breaking. Which should I take against the bleeding iron fang theme that I still haven't figured out how to beat? Also, do you agree with my assessment of which list should take on what? I just threw the Calandra list together, so Borka will probably be my default.

I realize both lists could be improved in a variety of ways which I'll be interested in discussing later, but for now they are sharply limited by my collection. A second unit of fire eaters and the other two Krielstone scribes are high on my purchase priority list.

My lists:

War Room Army

Trollblood - Power of Dice

Theme: The Power of Dhunia
3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army

Calandra Truthsayer, Oracle of the Glimmerwood - WB: +27
- Trollkin Runebearer - PC: 0
- Dire Troll Bomber - PC: 19 (Battlegroup Points Used: 19)
- Dire Troll Mauler - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 8)
- Troll Bouncer - PC: 9
- Troll Axer - PC: 10
- Mulg the Ancient - PC: 22

Troll Whelps - 5 Whelps: 0
Janissa Stonetide - PC: 0
Gremlin Swarm - PC: 3
Northkin Shaman - PC: 4

Dhunian Knot - Leader & 2 Grunts: 6
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 3 Grunts: 6
- Stone Scribe Elder - PC: 3
- Trollkin Sorcerer - PC: 3
Swamp Gobber Bellows Crew - Leader & 1 Grunt: 2

THEME: The Power of Dhunia
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GENERATED : 03/08/2018 07:42:49
BUILD ID : 2061.18-02-21

War Room Army

Trollblood - Storm bears Tourney

Theme: Storm of the North
3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army

Armory - Steamroller Objective

Borka, Vengeance of the Rimeshaws - WB: +27
- Trollkin Runebearer - PC: 0
- Pyre Troll - PC: 8 (Battlegroup Points Used: 8)
- Swamp Troll - PC: 8 (Battlegroup Points Used: 8)
- Dire Troll Mauler - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 11)

Fell Caller Hero - PC: 0
Valka Curseborn, Chieftain of the North - PC: 0
Feralgeist - PC: 2
Troll Whelps - 5 Whelps: 4

Northkin Bear Handler & Battle Bears - Bear Handler & 2 Battle Bears: 10
Northkin Bear Handler & Battle Bears - Bear Handler & 2 Battle Bears: 10
Lynus Wesselbaum & Edrea Lloryrr - Lynus & Edrea: 5
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 3 Grunts: 6
- Northkin Elder - PC: 3
Trollkin Champions - Leader & 4 Grunts: 16
- Skaldi Bonehammer - PC: 5
- Trollkin Sorcerer - PC: 3
Northkin Fire Eaters - Leader, Trollkin Grunt, and Pyg Grunt: 7

THEME: Storm of the North
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GENERATED : 03/08/2018 07:43:38
BUILD ID : 2061.18-02-21

Not quite a competitive player, yet, mostly because I don't have time to go to tournaments.

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Pair sorting advice Mar 8, 2018 20:26:51 GMT

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Post by Trollock on Mar 8, 2018 20:26:51 GMT

Neither list is really suited for IFP spam. Calandra definitely wont work, so it will have to be Borka. With more Fire Eaters you would have a better chance, but it is far from ideal. Not really sure what to do without changing up the lists a bit...

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mazog
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Pair sorting advice Mar 9, 2018 0:05:52 GMT

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Post by mazog on Mar 9, 2018 0:05:52 GMT

Right then, dodge Khador. That'll work out fine, I'm sure. That question really should have its own thread, which I'll do at another time. My priority right now is that I don't get a lot of chances to play competitively, so I'm looking for some (speculative) guidance on what sorts of lists each of these will work well against. The Borka2 is very similar to one I've been trying out lately, where I swapped the Mauler and Whelps for Rok (whom I need to buy), and it's been a pretty good all-comers list, at least in my tiny little meta.

Not quite a competitive player, yet, mostly because I don't have time to go to tournaments.

ninjastars
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Pair sorting advice Mar 9, 2018 0:30:35 GMT

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Post by ninjastars on Mar 9, 2018 0:30:35 GMT

Borka probably won’t work against dudespam. I mean the iron fang list is a dude spam list, so if it doesn’t work against that it ain’t gonna work against ret sentinels Or storm division or, god help you, banes.

I think that’s what you’d want your second list to be, mostly for dude spam, but calandra with a bunch of beasts isn’t going to plug that hole. I think the calandra list would be best into battle group lists, just like borka, but less good into shooting. I’d drop her if you see a gargossal, since borka’s feat doesn’t work on them. She also has a nasty assassination with feat, misfortune Amd bombs, so look for matchups with casters that are weak to that.

mazog
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Pair sorting advice Mar 9, 2018 3:05:14 GMT

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Post by mazog on Mar 9, 2018 3:05:14 GMT

Ah, yes, the Gargossal problem for Borka2. Thanks, I'd forgotten that. I'd been messing around with Grissel1 lately, when I should have been practicing for this, but there was weird stuff with work where I thought I wouldn't be able to make the tournament.

Ok, so, I'll think about swapping the Calandra list for BoH to handle dudespam, at least for the time.

I've managed to handle dudespam before, the problem I have with legion of steel is that they are arm 20++ dude spam with tough and steady at critical moments, which I haven't figured out how to handle, outside of Kolgrimma or just assassinating at range which feels chancy outside Kolgrimma, Grissel2, and Grim1.

Not quite a competitive player, yet, mostly because I don't have time to go to tournaments.

ravenfire Junior Strategist Me Mulg me SMASSSSSHHHH Posts: 244	Pair sorting advice Mar 9, 2018 6:39:02 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by ravenfire on Mar 9, 2018 6:39:02 GMT I play Kolgrima just for this reason. I have lots of players with high arm troops in my meta and cursed fate does wonders with that

mazog Junior Strategist Walking and talking Posts: 748	Pair sorting advice Mar 9, 2018 12:25:45 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by mazog on Mar 9, 2018 12:25:45 GMT Yeah, I think that'll end up being the best solution, I just don't own her and she's not in stock at the store, so I can't get her in time for this one.
	Not quite a competitive player, yet, mostly because I don't have time to go to tournaments.

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