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Post by ninjapete on Apr 2, 2017 20:52:55 GMT
I know I had heard the next theme force for Trolls was going to be Northkin, figured I'd start a post to collect any info we get on it. Has anyone heard of a date for it to go into CID or anything? I know there was an image in the latest magazine of a new Northkin model or possibly unit.
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Post by trollsareblue on Apr 3, 2017 0:02:42 GMT
Nada. Probably be a CID thing. Trolls get to suck it up with 2 themes (or one, really) for a while yet.
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Post by randommovement on Apr 3, 2017 6:27:14 GMT
Why do you say that? BoH is an amazing theme that is very underrated.
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flogger
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Post by flogger on Apr 3, 2017 7:21:35 GMT
Why do you say that? BoH is an amazing theme that is very underrated. +1 we have 2 themed that both are playable. |
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Post by Trollock on Apr 3, 2017 8:28:20 GMT
Why do you say that? BoH is an amazing theme that is very underrated. Please elaborate  |
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Post by grabsnikk on Apr 3, 2017 10:30:01 GMT
Extra deployment, free Fell Callers.
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Post by Arcaux on Apr 3, 2017 11:07:07 GMT
Extra deployment, free Fell Callers. I don't consider my Fell caller free when I have to take Champions, Warders or Longriders XD
That said: I am testing
Madrak3 - Bomber - Mauler - Pyre Max Fennblades + UA Max Champs + Skaldi Max Longriders Fell Caller Hero SSC' Only given it a few games, but I'm not too optimistic.
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Post by trollsareblue on Apr 3, 2017 11:21:53 GMT
Why do you say that? BoH is an amazing theme that is very underrated. I stand by my statement. If you have a competitive list for BoH, I'd love to see it. |
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Post by ninjapete on Apr 3, 2017 12:16:31 GMT
War Room Army
Trollblood - Madrak 2 Theme
Theme: Band of Heroes
2 / 2 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Bunker - Steamroller Objective
Madrak Ironhide, World Ender - WB: +28
- Dire Troll Mauler - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 15)
- Earthborn Dire Troll - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 13)
Fell Caller Hero - PC: 0
Fennblade Kithkar - PC: 4
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9
- Stone Scribe Elder - PC: 3
Trollkin Fennblades - Leader & 9 Grunts: 15
- Trollkin Fennblade Officer & Drummer - Officer & Drummer: 0
Trollkin Warders - Leader & 2 Grunts: 10
Trollkin Warders - Leader & 2 Grunts: 10
Trollkin Champions - Leader & 4 Grunts: 17
- Skaldi Bonehammer - PC: 5
THEME: Band of Heroes
This one works for me. Fair number of Warders for catching bullets and for Grim Salvation (along with full stone for more GS). No surprises here, but works pretty solidly.
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Post by Trollock on Apr 3, 2017 13:32:19 GMT
War Room Army Trollblood - Madrak 2 Theme Theme: Band of Heroes 2 / 2 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army Bunker - Steamroller Objective Madrak Ironhide, World Ender - WB: +28 - Dire Troll Mauler - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 15) - Earthborn Dire Troll - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 13) Fell Caller Hero - PC: 0 Fennblade Kithkar - PC: 4 Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9 - Stone Scribe Elder - PC: 3 Trollkin Fennblades - Leader & 9 Grunts: 15 - Trollkin Fennblade Officer & Drummer - Officer & Drummer: 0 Trollkin Warders - Leader & 2 Grunts: 10 Trollkin Warders - Leader & 2 Grunts: 10 Trollkin Champions - Leader & 4 Grunts: 17 - Skaldi Bonehammer - PC: 5 THEME: Band of Heroes This one works for me. Fair number of Warders for catching bullets and for Grim Salvation (along with full stone for more GS). No surprises here, but works pretty solidly. That list is probably what you want to play against infantry swarms. How about going Min stone and adding a sorcerer to the Fennblades to really counter ghost fleet? |
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Post by ninjapete on Apr 3, 2017 14:22:46 GMT
Oh I would if I thought I'd ever see it. Lol. Also yes it would do great into mass infantry but it's quite good against most combined arms lists as well. About all it really can't chew through would be heavy jack Spam but my Doomy3 POD pairing takes care of that.
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Arcaux
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Post by Arcaux on Apr 3, 2017 14:52:03 GMT
Wild Speculation time!
Looking at other themes that have come out we can have a look at what we think the Northkin theme will be. Obviously this is all guess work, but it might be worth a shot:
Units useable:
Beasts:
- All Non character Beasts
- Rok
Units
- Champions
- Fire Eaters
- Longriders
- Krielstone + UA
Solos
- Fell caller hero
- Sorcerer
- Skaldi
- Northkin Shaman
- Runebearer
- Champion Hero
- Horthol
- Whelps
- Runebearer
Battle Engine:
War Wagon
Benefits:
- All models in this army gain immunity cold.
- For every 20 point of Northkin solos or units gain a free solo
I think these first 2 are very likely.
The third bonus? I could see:
- Champions have 8 boxes
- Opponents models lose Advance Deploy
I don't think Northkin units can gain advanced move without Fire eaters destroying the world unfortunately.
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Post by gdnerd on Apr 3, 2017 16:23:55 GMT
I don't think Rok will be available in the theme generically.
Champions probably won't get a specific benefit in the theme as they shouldn't be default in the theme (I believe the reason Skaldi makes the unit Northkin is because the theme will only allow Northkin units and maybe the Krielstone).
Everything has Stealth/Concealment until your second turn would be an interesting benefit, not sure if you want to put that much power into a theme though.
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Post by trollsareblue on Apr 3, 2017 17:44:14 GMT
War Room Army Trollblood - Madrak 2 Theme Theme: Band of Heroes 2 / 2 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army Bunker - Steamroller Objective Madrak Ironhide, World Ender - WB: +28 - Dire Troll Mauler - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 15) - Earthborn Dire Troll - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 13) Fell Caller Hero - PC: 0 Fennblade Kithkar - PC: 4 Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9 - Stone Scribe Elder - PC: 3 Trollkin Fennblades - Leader & 9 Grunts: 15 - Trollkin Fennblade Officer & Drummer - Officer & Drummer: 0 Trollkin Warders - Leader & 2 Grunts: 10 Trollkin Warders - Leader & 2 Grunts: 10 Trollkin Champions - Leader & 4 Grunts: 17 - Skaldi Bonehammer - PC: 5 THEME: Band of Heroes This one works for me. Fair number of Warders for catching bullets and for Grim Salvation (along with full stone for more GS). No surprises here, but works pretty solidly. That list is probably what you want to play against infantry swarms. How about going Min stone and adding a sorcerer to the Fennblades to really counter ghost fleet? I don't see that making a dent in the competitive infantry swarm lists (what few there are). Domiano will feat and laugh at you. Rockets will blow the crap out of you. And the Zerkova1 list that won in Seattle will take it on the chin, then eat your face. At best, you might win on clock. |
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Post by Trollock on Apr 3, 2017 20:27:46 GMT
That list is probably what you want to play against infantry swarms. How about going Min stone and adding a sorcerer to the Fennblades to really counter ghost fleet? I don't see that making a dent in the competitive infantry swarm lists (what few there are). Domiano will feat and laugh at you. Rockets will blow the crap out of you. And the Zerkova1 list that won in Seattle will take it on the chin, then eat your face. At best, you might win on clock. How does Damiano (with an infantry build) feat laugh at POW 12 weaponmasters with berserk and overtake? Fennblades still one shot merc infantry so they kill all of the infantry with ease even with +3 ARM. Granted that the jacks are less trivial, but i dont see that as a huge issue in the long run. Now playing against shooting (even infantry based shooting) is not what you want to do with this list. That was not what i meant with "infantry swarms". |
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