Help a new player expand his collection

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Circle Army - 75 / 75 points
[Theme] Call of the Wild

(Kaya 2) Kaya the Moonhunter [+24]
- Feral Warpwolf [18]
- Feral Warpwolf [18]
- Gorax Rager [7]
- Pureblood Warpwolf [17]
- Wild Argus [7]
- Wild Argus [7]
- Wild Argus [7]
- Wild Argus [7]
- Wild Argus [7]
Blackclad Wayfarer [0(4)]
Blackclad Wayfarer [0(4)]
Swamp Gobber Chef [1]
Shifting Stones [0(3)]
Shifting Stones [3]


With those models, I'd go Call of the Wild, actually. With the above version, the only extra purchases would be two sets of shifting stones (used in this list for fury management) and a second wayfarer. The gobber chef you could take or leave, but once again it helps with fury management, is cheap$, and is our only 1 point option at the moment. Total about $30 new. The idea would be to send in primaled arguses to soften things up and/or barkslam them out of the way.

If you're looking to adding a few more purchases, I would swap out a feral for a warpwolf stalker (magnetized!!!), And you could trade out the other feral for a second stalker, but then I'd swap out an Argus for a second gorax to protect primal and provide good angles to cast it.

This is basically the list I play, except I use kaya3, which is not cheap but probably runs the list better. Kaya2 with ferals can hit from downtown, though (warp speed, hunters mark, Kaya's spell), and on feat turn you don't have to worry about her 12" control.

The question is what he is trying to accomplish. Is his Plan to participate in tournaments sooner or later? Is he only playing in his local store? Or even only playing against friends? If he is not trying to get tournament ready asap, I would totally go with the kaya2 list posted above. Kaya2 is really a fun caster who is doing pretty circleish stuff, with
a) helping any beast to charge through forrest
b) hit and run like no other caster can
c) double up both of our signature "beast spells/animi" (forced evolution is somewhat like primal, while dogpile is a better huntersmark)
d) denying enemy warbeasts movement (muzzle).

Definately not the tournament setup, but with all outstanding purchases beeing really cheap staples off the faction and the list giving a good idea of what circle is capable of I think it is really a good startingpoint to see if hordes and circle in particular is a thing for him.

Thanks man! This was exactly the type of response i was hoping for

Yeah he really is best off buying into call of the Wild for now.

Honestly with Kaya3 5 argus might not be half bad. I second the Kaya 3 suggestion

I also second buying 1 stalker, but don’t build only as a stalker, magnetize the kit. Best choice I made was letting my Warpwolves kits be interchangeable. Honestly you don’t even really need magnets as the head and arm slots are super thick and stay in fine without them.

That’s probably your best bet for now. To potentially expand. He may want to start building for an anti Guns list. Woth that collection you probably want to dip into baldur2.

Purchases:
Baldur2
Megs

List:
CotW
Baldur2
-Megs
- 2 Stalkers (assuming he buys and converts)
- Pureblood
-Feral
-Gorax
2 Wayfarers (proxy the nightwitch or buy)
2 Shifting Stones (these a cheap or easy to convert. My first Stones were literally just rocks on bases I painted with customs runes.)
Feralghiest (borrow or proxy)

Plays VERY differently from Kaya and Gives him a solid answer into gunlines woth Def 14(18 behind the Wall with cover) Arm 20 Warpwolves.

After that...we’ll he probably wants to either commit to Bones or devourers host but that’s takes a lot of investment.

well, Baldur2 can get them there. High Def and High arm typically lets them live on approach. But any other caster is gonna be an npe into gunlines for the most part

I really would encourage Kaya 3 over Kromac 1 for a new player. Kromac 1 has a lot tech that can be overwhelming to learn on its own, let alone with a brand new player. Warpath alone is so versatile in application and it’s incrediblt pivitol on how you trigger it, that spell alone takes a while to appreciate and get work out of.

Kaya 3 is straightforward. Just enough circle with repo3, and Stalkers for shenanigans, but not too complex.

Kaya2 has a little more depth to her but I have not played her yet so don’t know how her learning curve is to new players

baldur2 requires Megalith, an expensive character jack x.O; Kaya2 requires a little bit of skill to fully utilize, but she can pull off some serious stunts by herself, especially when you include some shifting stones in there.

Considering you have so many argi, I'd probably go the CotW or Devour's Host route. Bones is Circle's current best theme but he only has 1 model that fits into it -.- ha ha. Both CotW and Devour's Host are fairly competitive, and I've seen Devour's Host lists run at tournament level fairly easily. The models he'd need to buy are Kreugar1, a unit of bloodweavers, tharn ravegers + UA, Sentry stone, Tharn Ravenger Shaman, shifting stones, n he should be good on beasts. Our circle player uses 2 units of ravegers but I doubt it'll be necessary. The key is chaining off heart eater during the raveger's UAs mini-feat. You also put Lightning Tendrils on the bloodweavers while they have killing spree from the nightwitch. Those two things will completely obliterate infantry and low arm spams, leaving the rest of your points to be directed towards more hearty heavy hitters. Use Dopplar Bark from the argi in order to auto drop everything's defense to 5 (it can't be avoided) and use a gorax to primal up some serious destruction. If your opponent is trying to hide his support or infantry behind obstructions or forests, pop Kreugar's feat and place the 3 AoEs, spread out, right on top of them like it wasn't even there; yep, you do not need line of sight for his feat, it just needs to be completely within his massive control range.