All the Troll Warlocks (played in a tournament)

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All the Troll Warlocks (played in a tournament) Nov 8, 2017 10:47:54 GMT macdaddy likes this

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Post by chevelle on Nov 8, 2017 10:47:54 GMT

Hello everybody,

Trollbloods are my favorite faction in the game and are the one faction I own every single Warlock. Unfortunately I haven't played Trolls in MK3 a lot, because I really didn't enjoyed putting them on the table.

Now with the CID changes live and the new models on the horizon I am eager to play them again, I mean ALL of them So I made this plan, to play every single Warlock in a tournament over the next months (I don't know how Long it will take, but we'll see) and document my journey here.

The rules are simple. I will take every single Warlock to a tournament and Play them. When they have been in my pairing but I wasn't able to play them, they will remain on the list and till I have played a tournament game with it.

The next two tournaments will be on November 25th and a team tournament on December 2nd.

So here are the Warlocks in PP order:

Warlock	Tournament	Opponent	Result
Borka1
Borka2
Calandra1
Gunnbjorn1
Grim1
Grissel1
Grissel2
Doomshaper3
Doomshaper2
Dooemshaper1
Horgle2
Grim2
Jarl1
Kolgrima1
Madrak1
Madrak2
Madrak3
Ragnor1

And now to the drawing board, thinking about my first pairing and lists

Trollock The Sky Fell Posts: 2,332	All the Troll Warlocks (played in a tournament) Nov 8, 2017 13:30:26 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Trollock on Nov 8, 2017 13:30:26 GMT Great idea! I think all of our warlocks are actually worth at least one tournament. Some are stronger than other, but i literally think ALL of them are tournament viable
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All the Troll Warlocks (played in a tournament) Nov 23, 2017 9:39:41 GMT

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Post by chevelle on Nov 23, 2017 9:39:41 GMT

So, this saturday I will be playing in a 16 man steamroller tournament in Munich. time to start this Project. I will take a Madrak1 / Kolgrima Pairing:

Theme: Band of Heroes
3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army

Madrak Ironhide, Thornwood Chieftain - WB: +29
- Trollkin Runebearer - PC: 0
- Dire Troll Bomber - PC: 19 (Battlegroup Points Used: 19)
- Troll Bouncer - PC: 9 (Battlegroup Points Used: 9)
Fell Caller Hero - PC: 0
Stone Scribe Chronicler - PC: 4
Trollkin Champion Hero - PC: 0
Swamp Gobber Chef - PC: 1
Kriel Warriors - Leader & 9 Grunts: 11
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 3 Grunts: 6
- Stone Scribe Elder - PC: 3
Trollkin Champions - Leader & 4 Grunts: 16
- Skaldi Bonehammer - PC: 5
- Trollkin Sorcerer - PC: 3
Trollkin Champions - Leader & 4 Grunts: 16
Trollkin Warders - Leader & 2 Grunts: 10

Theme: The Power of Dhunia
3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army

Kolgrima Stonetruth, Winter Witch - WB: +28
- Trollkin Runebearer - PC: 0
- Dire Troll Bomber - PC: 19 (Battlegroup Points Used: 19)
- Dire Troll Bomber - PC: 19 (Battlegroup Points Used: 9)
- Dire Troll Mauler - PC: 15
- Mulg the Ancient - PC: 22
- Troll Axer - PC: 10
Janissa Stonetide - PC: 0
Troll Whelps - 5 Whelps: 0
Dhunian Knot - Leader & 2 Grunts: 6
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9
- Stone Scribe Elder - PC: 3

There will be a total of 5 Cryx Players, so what could possibly go wrong ?

Will report back after the tournament with short battle reports.

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All the Troll Warlocks (played in a tournament) Nov 23, 2017 12:30:32 GMT

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Post by Trollock on Nov 23, 2017 12:30:32 GMT

Looking forward to the reports for sure!

Looking at the Madrak list, i always try and trim a list as much as i can. The champion Hero seems fairly weak to me, especially with Madrak 1 since being missed will not trigger ret strike... If you dropped that and the chef you have 6 points to play with. That could be a maxed out stone and a sorcerer for the second unit of champs. My guess is that this is your cryx drop, and if you have a big juicy unit of champs with nor sorcerer, they could be neutered with crippling grasp for basically the whole game. Having no good targets for CG seems like a good idea. Sure, they will still cast CG on your big unit, and do as much work as they can, but Madrak and the shield guards should be able to work around that, and when your turn comes, you can dispel it and charge your full distance. I totally understand if you only own 1 sorcerer though. My second one is shipping as we speak. They have never been good enough to consider before imo...

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All the Troll Warlocks (played in a tournament) Nov 23, 2017 12:59:29 GMT

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Post by Big Fat Troll on Nov 23, 2017 12:59:29 GMT

I think you will need Kolgrimma against Cryx. In fact, in the team tournament, pair her with Borka 1 and build the entirety of both lists just to beat Cryx. I am completely serious. If the opposing team happens to not have any Cryx players, you should still do fine against a lot of other pairings, especially in Circle, and Skorne.

To be honest, I don't like that first list. It just looks cluttered. I don't think you need the Kriel Warriors. I don't have much pilot time with this new Madrak 1 but it seems to me that he generally prefers elite infantry and Long Riders. I also prefer lower model counts if I can help it, and these melee bricks need to max out the Krielstone. I suggest something more like this:

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Trollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points
[Theme] Band of Heroes

(Madrak 1) Madrak Ironhide, Thornwood Chieftain [+29]
- Dire Troll Bomber [19]
- Dire Troll Mauler [15]
- Trollkin Runebearer [0(5)]
Fell Caller Hero [0(5)]
Stone Scribe Chronicler [4]
Trollkin Champion Hero [0(5)]
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (max) [9]
- Stone Scribe Elder [3]
Trollkin Champions (max) [16]
- Skaldi Bonehammer [5]
Trollkin Champions (max) [16]
Trollkin Warders (max) [17]

You could swap out the Mauler for an Axer to make room for that Sorcerer and a Feralgeist or Swamp Gobbers, but specifically, the Axer, to help the Bomber get into the fight and set up Charge of the Trolls.

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All the Troll Warlocks (played in a tournament) Nov 23, 2017 14:43:47 GMT via mobile

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Post by mazog on Nov 23, 2017 14:43:47 GMT

Trollock is right, if M1 is your Cryx drop (which he probably should be) each champ unit needs a sorcerer. I have never played them, but since you don't have the points for Fenns, i'd say keep the warriors for, well, jam isn't the right word since they are slow, but lane blocking at least. Every attack that goes into them doesn't go into something better, and with guided hand they will hit reliably. If you could find the points, I'd be all about swapping then for Fenns, though, because they do a lot of work for M1.

The champ hero is debatable, it's such an awesome interaction with sanguine bond that if be reluctant to drop him but I am worried about your fury management and the second sorcerer.

Having run single champs with bomber/axer, I'd be inclined to keep the Mauler, but double champs might have enough punch to make up for the loss.

Not quite a competitive player, yet, mostly because I don't have time to go to tournaments.

chevelle Got a Battle Box Posts: 31	All the Troll Warlocks (played in a tournament) Nov 24, 2017 5:49:41 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by chevelle on Nov 24, 2017 5:49:41 GMT Thanks for the Input and your suggestions. What would you think could be a good Cryx drop, if I didn't want to Play Madrak1 into that? Maybe Grim1 ?

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All the Troll Warlocks (played in a tournament) Nov 24, 2017 16:27:54 GMT via mobile

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Post by mazog on Nov 24, 2017 16:27:54 GMT

I think Madrak1 in Band with double champs is an excellent Cryx drop, as long as you squeeze in those sorcerers. I'd forgotten the context, for Cryx they are vital, where the champ hero is just fun. He's especially great against cavalry as you can retaliate on the impact attack and possibly deny the charge attack. Again, though, the sorcerers will do you better against anything with a debuff.

Not quite a competitive player, yet, mostly because I don't have time to go to tournaments.

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Post by chevelle on Nov 8, 2017 10:47:54 GMT

Post by Trollock on Nov 8, 2017 13:30:26 GMT

Post by chevelle on Nov 23, 2017 9:39:41 GMT

Post by Trollock on Nov 23, 2017 12:30:32 GMT

Post by Big Fat Troll on Nov 23, 2017 12:59:29 GMT

Post by mazog on Nov 23, 2017 14:43:47 GMT

Post by chevelle on Nov 24, 2017 5:49:41 GMT

Post by mazog on Nov 24, 2017 16:27:54 GMT