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Post by ubereater on Oct 29, 2017 1:39:34 GMT
Silly Question.
Does his feat remove d3+3 damage from each model in his CRTL area or d3+3 total?
Thanks
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mattmcd
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Post by mattmcd on Oct 29, 2017 2:43:43 GMT
Each model. :-)
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Post by grabsnikk on Oct 29, 2017 4:39:17 GMT
Each model. You also roll individually for each model.
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mazog
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Post by mazog on Oct 29, 2017 6:39:09 GMT
Oh dear. I had really hoped that it was one roll for all. Do I have to roll for all of the one box models, too? This may be a serious clock problem for me.
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Post by Trollock on Oct 29, 2017 7:08:19 GMT
I doubt any obe will actually force you to roll for the 5 vox models either, since they automatically go back to full. It is like rolling blast damage against a heavy that can not be damaged by it. The rules say you still have to roll, but i do not see that rule enforced.
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Post by grabsnikk on Oct 29, 2017 8:13:02 GMT
Oh dear. I had really hoped that it was one roll for all. Do I have to roll for all of the one box models, too? This may be a serious clock problem for me. You can't roll for single box models because if they toughed they already healed their one box.
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Post by ikeda on Oct 29, 2017 13:54:12 GMT
When I played, all my champs were somewhere between 1-4 health down. So literally I pointed, rolled, pointed, rolled, pointed, rolled and then cleaned them up via phone once it was all done (since it was impossible to roll less than 4). They guys at my shop emphasize getting rolls down quickly to speed up the process and it's helping me speed up my game.
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mazog
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Post by mazog on Oct 29, 2017 18:05:32 GMT
At my shop we figured it was one roll for the whole army, since it didn't have each in there. My favorite technique, if only one or two models has taken too much damage to full heal, was to reset the match, then restore damage.
I had noticed that my Madrak1 boh list wasn't doing a lot to armor, but hasn't really thought about the pairing yet, since I'm doing the five game challenge. The next five are M1 in pod, which I'm excited about.
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Post by Big Fat Troll on Oct 29, 2017 19:40:10 GMT
So with models that have exactly 5 damage boxes, am I required to physically roll a die or can I just heal them up to full? It is mathematically impossible for the die roll result to matter in that case.
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Post by elricaltovilla on Oct 29, 2017 21:15:07 GMT
So with models that have exactly 5 damage boxes, am I required to physically roll a die or can I just heal them up to full? It is mathematically impossible for the die roll result to matter in that case. I think you still technically have to roll, but since you can't roll less than full health for your dudes just do it as quickly as you can. You don't even need to track the results.
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Post by Trollock on Oct 29, 2017 21:27:27 GMT
If an opponent asks me to roll for models who automatically will be fully healed i will do it. But then they will have my full attention for rules minutia for the rest of the game. Very few players think the game is better when one actually has to follow all the rules to the letter. Basically every game some one will accidentally say that they upkeep a spell before they allocate focus and such things that most players will let slip because that is not what the game is about. If some one wants to play hard ball, that is fine, but i doubt many players will.
You can always discuss it with your opponent before the game. You explain that you heal at least 4 points, and thus the 5 wound guys will automatically be maxed out. They will know what is happening when it is time to feat and you can both have a clean and fun game with no need to roll dice that do not affect the game.
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Post by macdaddy on Oct 29, 2017 23:03:50 GMT
So with models that have exactly 5 damage boxes, am I required to physically roll a die or can I just heal them up to full? It is mathematically impossible for the die roll result to matter in that case. I think you still technically have to roll, but since you can't roll less than full health for your dudes just do it as quickly as you can. You don't even need to track the results. If an opponent requires that you roll a bunch of dice just to burn clock, he is a butt munch.
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Post by elricaltovilla on Oct 30, 2017 0:12:11 GMT
I think you still technically have to roll, but since you can't roll less than full health for your dudes just do it as quickly as you can. You don't even need to track the results. If an opponent requires that you roll a bunch of dice just to burn clock, he is a butt munch. I don't disagree, but I also come from a D&D background, where RAW is all.
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Post by Big Fat Troll on Oct 30, 2017 2:19:26 GMT
If an opponent requires that you roll a bunch of dice just to burn clock, he is a butt munch. I don't disagree, but I also come from a D&D background, where RAW is all. I literally have never played a D&D game in which people stuck 100% to RAW. The only RPG I ever played that did was Pathfinder Society, Cuz Organized Play, and even then not all GMs would.
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Post by elricaltovilla on Oct 30, 2017 2:31:06 GMT
I don't disagree, but I also come from a D&D background, where RAW is all. I literally have never played a D&D game in which people stuck 100% to RAW. The only RPG I ever played that did was Pathfinder Society, Cuz Organized Play, and even then not all GMs would. If you ever try to have a discussion with another d&d player though, they all act like they follow RAW 100% to the letter. It's an interesting dichotomy that I could never really get behind. I'm a homebrewer by nature and never bought into the idea that RAW mattered all that much. But check out the old WOTC forums, GitP, Paizo forums or anywhere else that D&Ders congregate on the interwebs if you don't believe me.
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